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EPISODE 539: “THROWBACK to EPISODE 193: Fear Is The Cure For Fear”

October 15, 2026

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Yes, you read the headline correctly. Fear is the cure for fear. Why? 

Because you’ll not go through fear until you go through your fear, hence, fear is the cure for itself. 

I could spend hours writing fancy copy explaining this episode but it’s as simple as this: Go through your fear or you’ll never go through your fear and when you go through your fear your higher essence and Spirit will be free to soar. 

You have probably heard before, “All the things you want are on the other side of your fear.” This is because mostly all the big things you want in life are coming from your desires which are many times coming from your spiritual essence. 

As long as you entertain your fear you’re going to hobble and hinder your spiritual growth. 

So many people who listen to my podcast would consider themselves spiritual but on the flip side of the coin, they have tremendous fears. 

Ask yourself, “How spiritual is it to get into fear, that which hampers my spirit?” 

In this episode of course I go deeper into this but it’s a short episode because when you really ponder the single phrase, Fear Is The Cure For Fear, and you come to know that, everything changes in life. 

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You’ll not transcend your fear until you go through your fear and it’s one of the most spiritual things that you can do.

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You’re listening to the Transform Your Life from the Inside Out podcast. This is a throwback episode to episode number 193 that was titled, Fear is the Cure for Fear.
Now, you may be thinking, Jim, what the hell does that mean? Fear is the cure for fear. This is the biggest thing, meaning fear, that stands between you and every single thing that you want. Ponder that for a moment. Every single thing that you want in life is on the other side of fear. And in this episode, I’m going to talk about actually how to get through the fear. By the way, fear is just simply an illusion of the ego. But I’m going to talk about how to get through the fear so you can start creating the life that you want and start transforming your life from the inside out. By the way, as I mentioned before, I’m not sure if this will be the last throwback episode. We’re going to actually just go back to one episode per week. So I’m not sure if it’ll be next week or the week after. But just recognize if you don’t find any more throwback episodes in the future, that’s simply because we’ve actually went to one episode or we’ve started doing one episode per week like we’ve done for many years in the past. Okay, enjoy the episode.
Hi, I’m Jim Fortin and you’re about to start transforming your life from the inside out with this podcast. I’m widely considered the leader in subconscious transformation. And I’ve coached super achievers all around the world for over 25 years. Here you’re going to find no rah rah motivation and no hype because this podcast is a combination of brain science, transformational psychology, and ancient wisdom all rolled into one to take your life to levels you’ve never thought possible. If you’re wanting a lot more in life, to feel better, to heal, to have peace of mind, to feel powerful and alive, and to bring more abundance and prosperity into your life, then this podcast is for you because you’re going to start learning how to master your mind and evolve your consciousness. And when you do that, anything you want then becomes possible for you. I’m glad you’re here.
Okay, so fear is the cure for fear. And what does that mean? Now, here at the podcast, you know I have talked about fear at different times in different ways, and I’ve mainly talked about it from a brain-based point of view or a psychological point of view. In this episode, I want to talk about it from what I call a spiritual perspective or from looking at it from a higher place in our lives.
And the reality is, as I said in the introduction, and I know because I’ve been a transformational coach for a lot of years, and basically I’ve been a human being for a lot of years. Well, not a lot, but the time on this planet, and I know my life and other people’s lives and things that I hear and see and things that I do, but people live in constant states of fear. And people have all kinds of fears. You know, there’s fear, you know, people get into worry, and they get into doubt, and they get into insecurity, and they get into all these things, guilt as well. They get into all these things, but one big one, which is not the main topic of this episode, but it is an example, people get into, well, what are other people going to think about me? Which is a big fear that many people get into, and they live their entire lives in that bubble. I’m going to live in fear because what are people going to think about me if I do or don’t do X, Y, Z?
Okay, where I want to go in this episode is that fear is a lesson. Ponder that. Fear is a lesson. And this lesson, you know, you’ve heard before in life, you know, you’re going to learn your lesson or, you know, you’ve heard that phrase before. But we don’t grow in life until we learn, until we literally, we explore something, we experience something. And then here’s the thing: we go through something. And when we go through something is when we grow. So when it comes to fear, most people, and I’m using the word most because, again, it applies, and I know my own life many years ago, is that we won’t go through fear. We’ll do anything and everything to avoid the things that cause us fear and we don’t do it. And then what many of us find is that we will not do things that we think we want to do for an entire lifetime. Why? Because there was fear about going into it or doing it or executing or whatever.
And what I want to share with you here is higher perspective, is that when you get into fear, you’re literally blocking the spiritual essence of you with your brain. And the brain and spiritual essence are two very different things. But when you get into fear, what you’re doing is, first, let me back up. There are many things that you want to do in life that you might find you have a calling for. You know, you have a yearning. And it can be anything, acting and dancing and singing. And I see a lot of this in my groups, painters. And you have what I call the spiritual calling, this dharma in you that wants out. And it wants to express itself in the world. And you’re driven by this. I mean, it’s just part of who you are. You want to express this artistry, whatever it is or however it is in you. But you’re afraid to.
Here’s the spin in this episode is that that artistry is your spirit wanting to get out. And that spirit is blocked by your brain. Now, your spirit is eternal, but that’s blocked by your brain being in your body on this planet. And you’re literally blocking your greater spiritual essence from expressing itself when you actually hit fear and you don’t go through it.
You know, fear is what happens when you hit a spiritual growth wall. And what we have to do, we have to do, is we have to face the fear. We have to go through the fear. Because as you’ve probably heard me say before, and I’ll say again, if you don’t go through the fear, you won’t go through the fear. If you don’t leave your comfort zone, you won’t leave your comfort zone.
So as we look around and look into your own life, fear is what causes the most pain on the planet. Ponder that. Fear is what causes the most pain on the planet. And now, even further, what do you think causes the most pain in your life? And as you ask yourself that question, you know, what causes the most pain in my life, if you will notice, most likely it is fear-based.
When we get into fear, we disconnect ourselves from our true core, our true essence, our spirit, our divine nature. And it shuts people down. And I look at my transformational groups. There was this one woman recently from India. And it was my last round that I did of the group. And she’s an artist. And she’s an extraordinary artist. And she had never put her art out. Why? Because she was afraid. And I remember when she put a piece out in the group, because my groups are extremely safe groups, when she put that piece out, I remember Nikki, my director of operations, messaged me and she goes, oh my gosh, did you see that piece of art that so-and-so posted in the group? And I said, no. And she goes, it’s amazing and I want that piece. And actually, I reached out to the artist and said, hey, I want to buy that piece because I wanted to gift it to Nikki who runs everything for me. And the artist said, I can’t sell it to you, someone already bought it. But what I’m sharing here is that she was afraid to put herself out. And then when she did put herself out, what is in her started coming through her and people wanted it right away.
And that’s what we have to do in life is we have to put ourselves out there. Because how can you grow and expand in your life and create more prosperity and abundance and things in your life if you’re afraid to put yourself out there? And then what happens is we never let that soulful part of us, that divine part of us, we never unleash it so that we can, for lack of better words, so that we can fly and we can grow in life.
I want to give you some other perspective here in that fear shows you the direct path that you must take in life. Ponder that. Your fear shows you the direct path you must take in life. Now, what I mean by that is, you know, fear also shows you the quickest ways that are in front of you that are blocking your spirit. And when you remove that fear, then you unblock your spirit. And then what is in you, whether it just be out in the world communicating with people or artistry or whatever it is, then comes out of you.
And what a lot of us want to do, and I’m no different than you, and I lived my life many years this way, is that once we’re confronted with fear, we want to run from it. We want to run from the fear. And that’s the worst thing that we can do, because when we run from the fear, we don’t go through it. And when we don’t go through it, we don’t evolve spiritually. And we keep repeating our human brain-based patterns over and over and over again.
I mentioned a guy before, Éliphas Lévi, and he has this phrase that I love. And the phrase is: when you fear to face the lion, the lion will fear you.
So you think about the air quote lion fears that you have in your life, meaning big, bad fears. As long as you hold those fears, they’re going to control you. And the only way to have those things stop controlling you is to face the fear.
Okay, I want to add a note here outside of the podcast episode in that if you’re listening for the first time, I appreciate it. But what I tell everyone is go back to the very first episode and start there. Of course, you can listen weekly as we go, but always go back to the very first episode and start there because everything kind of builds on itself or adds more pieces to the puzzle or gives you greater clarity in our time together. As well, you’ve heard me ask before, if you would please, if you find value in the podcast, then please share the podcast. You know, my objective and my mission is to touch as many people as I possibly can and to help as many people as I possibly can. And I can’t do that if you don’t share.
I also had mentioned before in prior episodes that reciprocity of life is irony. And we actually take abundance out of our life when we take things from people and we don’t contribute or return the value in life. So if you’re getting value here, a way that you can return the value to me and other people is to actually share the podcast. And I know that because I’ve been there with this is what we do, oh, I’ll do it later and etc., and we never get to it. So if you’re finding value, please share.
Okay, back to fear for a bit is that have you noticed how much of your fear when you get into it drains you and weakens you? Ponder that for a moment. Think about how emotionally drained you are after you’ve gotten into a particular episode of fear. And then think about, for example, let’s say you get into something. It could be as simple as wanting to call somebody but afraid to do it. And you get into it and then you go over it and over it and over it and over it in your head. And the more that you go over it and the more that you stay in fear, it’s like a cell phone. And your cell phone has so much battery. And your brain has so much battery. And the more that you stay in the fear, it’s like being on your cell phone and running down the battery. You basically are draining the battery. And this is why so many people are so drained physically after they’ve been getting into emotional fear because they’re draining their batteries.
So I do want to point out also, I’ve said before, there is a difference between danger and fear. And there’s very real dangers in life. I mean, there are things that can harm us. So we obviously do not want to, not at all, run towards danger or engage danger, wild animals and real lions right up in their face or snakes or, you know, running across traffic, and, you know, the list goes on. But we don’t want to engage in danger, but we do want to engage in the fear and go through the fear.
So what I’m telling you and what I’ve already said is do not run from the fear, the fear of being judged, the fear of not being liked, the fear of what are people going to think about me, the fear of this, you know, simple fears, which honestly I think are the most ridiculous fears in the world. And I say that because I’m no different than you, which I’ve said, I think, for the third time in this episode. I used to have as many fears or the same kinds of fears as what everyone else did. I don’t have them anymore. I don’t. And when you don’t have the fears of, for example, one of the biggest fears is what are people going to think about me, when you don’t have that fear, and you look back after you transcend it, you’re like, oh my gosh, that’s the most ridiculous fear in the world is to get into, oh, what are people going to think about me? What are people going to say about me? What’s my mother going to say? What’s my father going to say? What’s my family going to say? And these are all ludicrous things that we get into, but they’re all based upon our fear of being judged by someone else.
Thank you. I also want to say very quickly, there are degrees of fear. And obviously, we want to be smart. But let’s say, for example, the fear of judgment from other people. I mean, when I look at that, to me, that’s a very low degree of fear versus somebody might have a medical condition, and they put a high degree of fear on that. And the truth is this, fear is fear. And speaking of medical conditions, when people have some kind of, you know, negative medical diagnosis, what a lot of people get into instantaneously is fear. And fear is the last thing that you want to get into. Even the pandemic in the world, look at all the people in fear. Fear weakens the immune system. Fear is not good for your body, but yet it’s the first thing that people go into. Most people, not all. It’s the first thing they go into. And truth be told, when it comes to physiology, it’s the last thing that we should go into.
I want to keep this episode really simple and just get this to sink in. I’ve said before many times, and the thing about us humans is we don’t hear something until we hear something. We can hear something 20 times and not get it because we hear it, but our brain filters it out. And then we can hear it 10 times, 20 times, and we can even think, oh, I’ve heard that so many times it’s not even funny. And then one time it sinks in and we’re like, wham, okay, I get it now.
And the reality is this. Think about all the comfort zones in your life. Things that you’re afraid to do because you want to stay in your comfort zone. Well, the truth is this, is you will not leave your comfort zone until you leave your comfort zone. I’ll say it again. You’ll not leave your comfort zone until you leave your comfort zone. And again, you’ll not leave your comfort zone until you leave your comfort zone.
So one of the most powerful things that you can do with this episode is look at the comfort zones in your life. Again, the fear-based one, not danger-based ones, obviously. But look at the comfort zones and ask yourself, okay, what comfort zone can I leave today? Because when I leave that comfort zone, what’s going to happen? I’m going to confront the fear. I’m going to grow. I’m going to expand. And when I do that, I reach my higher spiritual essence and things that need to come through me so that I can share with the world to create a more expansive life for myself and others will come through me and I can share those things and everyone is going to be better off.
So I think you’ve already put it together by this point is you’ll never transcend your fear until you transcend your fear. And if you really want to get into fear, then be afraid about never transcending your fear because you will live your life imprisoned by that fear. You’ll never grow. You’ll never grow until you expand yourself and leave your fear.
As I started this episode with the title, Fear is the Cure for Fear. And you want to cure your fear? Embrace it and go through it.
Okay, thanks for listening, and I will catch you on another episode. Bye-bye.

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