You're listening to the Transform your Life from the Inside Out podcast. This episode is titled Conversations with a Sorcerer Part Two. Now, if you've listened for any amount of time, you know that I had a similar conversation with a sorcerer Which is what it was titled maybe about a month ago. And I got so much positive feedback from that episode. I wanted to share more with you and to be candid working, Don Xavier, who is my brother-in-law, a shaman. And I want to segue here for a second, even in the introduction that I know if you've listened for any amount of time, it can be repetitive. When I say Don Xavier, a shaman , my brother-in-law, we have a lot of new people joining. So I have to say that to create a little context. Anyway this is some notes from a conversation that he and I had last Christmas time. And I want to share these notes with you about changes that are happening on the planet and to humanity. Keep listening.

Hi, I'm Jim Fortin, and you're about to start Transforming your Life from the Inside Out with this podcast. I'm widely considered the leader in Subconscious Transformation, and I've coached super achievers all around the world for over 25 years. Here you're going to find no rah rah motivation and no hype because this podcast is a combination of Brain Science, Transformational Psychology, and Ancient Wisdom all rolled into one to take your life to levels you've never thought possible. If you're wanting a lot more in life to feel better, to heal, to have peace of mind, to feel powerful and alive, and to bring more abundance and prosperity into your life, then this podcast is for you because you're going to start learning how to master your mind and evolve your consciousness. And when you do that, anything you want then becomes possible for you. I'm glad you're here.

Okay. So I titled this episode Conversations with a Sorcerer Part Two. Now, what I intend to do is I was thinking about titles and episodes and all that and so many people ask me about my brother-in-law Don Xavier, how to work with him, how to reach him and all those kinds of things. He used to have a wait list, which he stopped because he has 800 people on it. And there's no way he can get to 800 people. And he charges very, very little. And after he works with someone one time to get them started. He never charges them again. So it's not about the money. As some people erroneously think not about the money at all, because he's not allowed to charge. On that note, I'll share that if someone's charging you exorbitant amounts of money for spiritual healing, or they represent themselves as a healer, a shaman, any of those real shamans are not allowed to charge. And at least that's what I've been taught by the shamans that I've worked with.

Why? Because the gifts, the healing, the seeing, The things that bring the spiritual awarenesses. Don't belong to them and they can't charge for what doesn't belong to them. So just be mindful. If you're working with someone that tells you that you've got to pay them $10,000 in their Shaman and all that kind of good stuff. I wouldn't pay him. And I would not do that. Just sharing my thoughts on that. Okay. So Don Xavier, well, the reason I'm doing these episodes is I have literally, I'm not exaggerating over a thousand recordings of him and I talking over the years. A lot of it I can't share with you. It's things that I'm just not allowed to share. Perhaps I don't like sports, but more advanced cosmic thinking. And he told me one time that I can't share a lot of that because a lot of people aren't at that place to be able to assimilate it and it could hurt them by leaving them in the wrong direction, in the wrong thinking. But I can't share a lot of things that you guys are observing on the planet.

So of all these episodes, I started thinking, why don't I just start going through these episodes and sharing with you guys? Things that he has shared with me and those that work with him. And this particular episode, I started scrolling for my phone. I found that episode from Christmas Eve, it was just the immediate family. And when we're together, the conversations always, not sometimes, always transpire and evolve into greater esoteric, spiritual teachings and lessons and awarenesses and paradigms and different things like that. But I want to share. My, my recapitulation of part of the conversation we had on Christmas Eve, 2023.

So he was talking about all the chaos in the world and how we manage it. And a lot of people have been asking me, well, how do I manage all the chaos in the world? And I'm going to just go through these bullet points because I took the audio and broke it down into bullet points for what I could share. And I want to just go through these audio points with you, okay. So he said, And some of this, I'm not sure how in-depth your spiritual exploration has been. Some of this will not be new to you, but maybe I can help you perceive it or see it or understand it in a different way.

But he said right now on planet earth. There's a big awakening that is happening. And in this big awakening, this awakening is not just on planet earth. He said that it expands through multiple galaxies. And he said right here on the earth, we're going through a big transition and a big awakening as a species. Now many of you probably don't think about that, but everything evolves in the universe sooner or later. And we even as a species live in the context of our current human experience. We don't think about, oh my gosh, am I part of a species that is also evolving?

We may think in terms of Darwinism or you know, Darwin, Darwin's theories or whatever. And thinking about evolution. And things we see on the planet over a couple of hundred, hundred years, but we never think in terms of what does it mean to be part of this spirit? This is the species and how does it evolve? So we're in the process of evolving consciousness on planet earth right now. And a big awakening is happening. And what Don Xavier has shared with me. And this is not new. I mean, he's shared this for 20 years, but I'm sharing it with you because when we were talking about it, he was recapitulating some things and laying down some frames. But he said right now on planet earth, we are caught. Many people are caught between two paradigms.

Meaning the old 3d world, the physical world, the world that you can experience with your eyes and the 5d world. Now the third dimension and fifth dimension. Many of us can't comprehend or understand the fifth dimension. Because we operate solely from the third dimension, meaning can I see it. Can I taste it, can I touch it? Can I feel it? Can I experience it with my physical body? Many of you probably also know that our physical body is extremely limited. And its capacities and capabilities are far more powerful than what people recognize, but also extremely limited. When it comes to light, we can only see 3% of what exists on the electromagnetic spectrum. You know, we can't see ultraviolet light. So to speak, we can't see infrared because there are colors. You know, , the bottom of the scale is red and the top is violet, meaning lowest frequency to highest frequency. And we can't see beyond those, but there are energies that exist beyond those ultraviolet beings at the top. And infrared being at the bottom.

But the point is this. We can't perceive the majority of what exists in the world. All that most of us can perceive if we live by the five senses. As what we can experience in our physical world, things that we can touch, things that we can see, things that we can hear. And for many of us, that is the extent of our reality. Now, with the changes that are happening on the planet. That brings a whole lot of uncertainty, a whole lot of fear, a whole lot of chaos, a whole lot of worry. And if you look around on the planet right now in 2024, What do you see? Mass chaos, uncertainty, worry, all those kinds of things.

You also see social structures that are collapsing. You don't believe me. The dollar is beginning, has begun. began. Began and I'm not sure which one. The dollar has started collapsing with the creation of a brics B R I C S that's. A collective of other nations that are no longer actually trading in dollars. So we're seeing the dollar collapse. And what we're really seeing and looking at is the chaos politically in the US, but it's not just in the US. It's all around the world.

What we're seeing is a collapse of old structures. Why just like going from winter to spring, something must die. And ceased to exist before it could be reborn. And we are rebirthing as a consciousness, as a species, and we are rebirthing into a multi as Gary Zukav called. A multisensory species. That's not new to me. I've been around that for decades now, working with Don Xavier and. Many times we think, well, I can't see it happening, but you do see it happening. Look around, I mean, look at the extent. The extent of the changes and the shifting on the planet. And this is literally we're seeing consciousness change. And people are trying to manage it, but they're managing it from 3d. Now I want to share something else he said here, and we'll talk more about this.

He said that back in the 1960s. And a lot of you may know this phrase. If you listen for any amount of time, He said that. We started having Indigo's. Anyone born after 1960 is what's called an indigo. Now, if you don't know what that is, Indigo's were recognized back in about the eighties or so. And they were coined Indigo's meaning they were like indigo, violet light. And they were further revolved than. Then humans normally are. And then he said in the 1980s, the next level after Indigo's started coming. And he told me what these are called, but I don't. I'm reluctant to share that I don't feel right about it, which means I'm following my sense, which I don't want to share the name that he gave me. But he said, if somebody is born after the like 1960 they're an indigo may not know it, but they're an indigo. If they're born after 1980. A metaphor that I can use is that Indigo came like windows, computers. Indigo's came with a higher, more advanced operating system than people prior to 1960.

And then people born after 1980. They came to the planet with an even higher operating system. Now let me throw a little curveball at you. Have you noticed the extent to which things like children on the spectrum? Exploded after 1980. A lot of people don't put two and two together, but think about that. Notice how autism exploded. Around 82, 83, thereabouts. And look at it now in the world. Why because every single being on the planet is incarnating, but they're incarnating with different frequencies and prior to 1960. He said these people. That are incarnating prior to 1960, they don't have the gifts that the Indigo's have or that the other version after the indigo's have. But he said those that are growing spiritually prior to 1960. They're doing it by choice.

Meaning, they have some awareness, they've opened your awareness and they have the choice and they're making their choice and they're being the choice to grow, evolve and expand. And he did say this needs no defense. When you look around the planet. Is that most of the planet, including the Indigos. They are living exclusively from 3d despite how gifted many of them are. And they're living from, I will quote his words. They're living from me, me, me. Money. Showing off. Cars and they think the totality of their being is 3d. And they think that all these things will make them a success. And they're indigo, not even recognizing that they come with higher frequency, but they don't have the awareness of the higher frequency. And they're living in lower frequency behaviors. We see that all around.

You know, speaking of success, I remember many years ago, and if you look online on Instagram and all these people and the big personalities online, They're all screaming about your highest potential and success and building the company and making an impact. And yes, making an impact is important, but not for the materialism of it. Making an impact is important because it allows us to contribute to our experience in the collective as a whole. And it contributes to our experience because it helps us also grow and evolve. But many people think that success is about what you acquire. And Don Xavier many years ago said to me, success is not about what you acquire. It's what you become in your evolution in this incarnation. Because we come to the planet, even though we don't remember it. We come to the planet to learn, to grow and evolve.

And that does also encompass our service, which helps us do that. And many of us forget why we come to the planet. So if we come here and we live entirely in 3d, We're not growing and evolving. And he wasn't criticizing. He was simply saying that, well, you know, that's okay. We're going to come back again. And we're not going to gain in terms of our evolution. Energetically, we're not going to gain anything while we're here if we're living completely in the 3d. We have to actually start functioning from a higher mind. From knowing yourself, which I've talked about. And then he talked about, and this, these are things you've heard me say before. On a lot of things that I say in the podcast, I might not even say that he's where I got it. Meaning he's the one who brought this to my attention. He's the one who shared and I never plagiarized. That's why I give him credit because that's not my energy. That's bringing some of it to you guys. And I don't want to take something that's not mine.

So I won't plagiarize and I will take it, because somebody said, well, you should mention him. And just do all the, all, everything you do without mentioning him. That's not right, energetically. Because even though I'm sharing it with you and he's told me I can share a lot of things, it's not right, because I'm not taking credit for something that didn't originate with me, even though nothing originates with anyone, because there's nothing new under the sun. But I am bringing it to you. I'm going to give proper credit where credit is due for my own energetic reasons.

Now, back to what I was talking about. And you've heard me mention this before. What is my Dharma? And I know at least in 20 episodes, I've asked you all over the place over the years. Why? Why are you here at this time? Why Did you incarnate at this time in the history of the species? And many people do. A phrase that he used. I'm just sharing some of the things that he's used to to get perhaps a better metaphor and just to better understand. He said many people on the planet put their head in the sand, like an ostrich. And they're not asking what is my Dharma? They were afraid because they're driven by the 3d. They're afraid of all the changes that are happening on the planet and all the chaos and the uncertainty. And the money worries and all these kinds of things, they are afraid of these things. Never You know, taking a step back and saying, whoa, wait. Why, why did I incarnate on planet earth at this time in the history of the species. Now you've heard me say before, there is no time. So I use that for clarification.

Why am I here at this point in the evolution of the species? And then I ask you. What gifts do you have to serve other people at this point and human evolution? What gifts did you incarnate with that you brought with you? When you do that, you're living your Dharma. And I would, I'd even mentioned the podcast episode maybe a month ago when somebody said it was very impactful for them. Don Xavier's mentor, who was a sorcerer, a shaman, a babalau and a nagual also said to me a lot of years ago, but he said the most important thing that I ever did is that I cited what I had to do before I crossed over. Crossed over for many of you means died. Meaning the most important thing that I ever did. I decided What I had to do before I crossed over, meaning living my Dharma. And what I do right now, even doing this podcast. I'm just being transparent. It's a lot of work and there are times that it can be a drag on the team and it's very time consuming, even though you just listened to an episode. You're pretty much done with it.

Each episode is a lot of work for the team. And we're actually going to start outsourcing everything. But my point is I cannot, I cannot do anything other than what I do. This is what I do. Many people love it. Some people don't love it. Some people write emails and say, Jim, thank you so much. Some people write emails and post things on YouTube. And tell me how stupid I am. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. What matters is that I am living and I am doing my Dharma. Okay, let me hop around here a little bit.

So we talked about it. The Indigo's we've talked about those coming after the Indigos we've talked about those prior. But in every, every frequency of incarnation, because the Indigo's have a different frequency. The notes that started incarnating in the eighties and the ones that started incarnating prior to the Indigos also had a different frequency, but no matter what frequency you're in, you always have a choice.

Okay let me segue from the episode for just one moment. You know, we're, we're growing here at our company and we're looking for some help. We need actually a very skilled marketing coordinator that understands all aspects of marketing. And the reason we're coming to the podcast is obviously I can go place an ad somewhere. I can hire a recruiter, et cetera. And I've already put out a message to my tribe. Our tribe, but I'm looking for someone of like-mind someone that's listening to the podcast that is spiritual and all about service and growth and helping humanity to expanding and grow as well. You know, In addition to helping themselves grow and evolve. So we're looking for a skilled marketing coordinator. Somebody that, you know, the person in his role must have experience in marketing and understand all aspects of marketing. We're looking for someone to take ownership of social media. This is all one role and they're going to manage all social media and all marketing campaigns, including coordinating, launching activities. We're looking for someone again, that's spiritual, a hundred percent responsible, a hundred percent accountable. Someone who works from excellence and we offer full benefits and a great environment to work in. Virtual is fine and we are looking for full time. Overall, we're also looking for someone that has a team player mentality. If this is you, we want to hear from you email support@jimforton.com. support@jimforton.com. And the team will reach out to you and they will actually tell you how to apply. And we're looking forward to meeting many of you guys. Okay, Thank you so much. And back to the episode.

Okay, so many of you listening, you're always wanting the good stuff. Get to the good stuff, Jim. So let's see what we can do there. And let's dig in a little bit. So many of us want higher function, of mind, especially people who listen to this podcast. We're looking for higher awareness, higher service, higher meaning higher growth. And we're looking to expand and grow. But here's where many of us hamstring ourselves. To experience the 5d paradigm. You have to let go of the 3d paradigm. Many of you metaphorically you want to steal second base base is if you're playing baseball. But you won't take your foot off first. So first base is 3d. Second base is 5d because there are more dimensions beyond the 5d so second base is 5d and you want to be on second base. You want to be in 5d, but you won't let go of your 3d and to let go of 3d we have to let go of our attachments. And those attachments are things. Number one, those attachments keep us stuck. I'm going to repeat that. Our attachments, keep us stuck in the 3d and being stuck for many people can be hell. I know, because for many years I lived stuck in the 3d. And even in my early years of working with Don Xavier. You know, There are some people who think that he tries to get people that work with him to believe certain things. It's the reverse. A shaman will actually get you to believe nothing and observe the world because you have more clarity there. And we'll ask you a real shaman will ask you to believe in nothing to discover for yourself.

But I used to be stuck like a lot of people, because even though he would share things with me, I wasn't learning my lessons. And when we get into 3d and the things that keep us stuck, let me give you some examples of emotions and see what fits for you. We get into anger. We get into fear. We get into greed, we get into resentment, we get into envy. We get into an ego crisis. We get into negativity, which is all. These are all 3d emotions. That is tied to the physical body experience. I mean, your soul does not have emotions like this. These are human experience based emotions that are all 3d. Then what you see a lot of in the world right now, it's all over the place.

People that are trapped in 3d. Also, they feel like they need to defend things. Look at the political arena in the US, which by the way is very toxic and I'm sure it is, other places in the world. But look at people defending their beliefs, their political parties, and they're running over other people because of their beliefs. And they're wanting people to believe like they do. They're wanting people to follow them. And they will do anything to protect those beliefs. And then they worry if their beliefs are not protected. That's all 3d bullshit. And you look out in the world and this is the world that we live in that is full of chaos. People, fretting over politics and cars and money and bills. And then in terms of our own behavior. Other 3d behaviors that people get into. They were afraid of judgment. I see that one a lot with my students in the transformational coaching program. They worry constantly.

And worry is not a spiritual thing per se. Your soul does not worry. That is your 3d ego attached to the physical reality worrying. Why because you're trying to protect something because you're attached to something. People get into when they're trapped in the 3d, they get into the anxiety they get into, you know, am I good enough? Oh my gosh, will people accept me? So every bit of this is lower frequency. And when people are in lower frequency, whether or not you like it, consciousness on the planet is changing. And when you're trapped in lower frequency, that's painful because you're trapped in lower frequency. Think about this. If you're worried about judgment and fear and anxiety and good enough and will others accept me and all my gosh Biden better win or Trump better win. Or this better happens. Or what about the economy or what about my money in the bank?

If any of that resonates. You don't have freedom. Think about that. You don't have freedom because you're controlled by these 3d things. And what we should be nourishing. Is the higher version of us. Not the 3d version. And when I say nourishing, meaning letting these things go so we can let our higher frequencies come into 5d and come out of us. You know an example of Don Xavier this night in this conversation, he was having it. He said, most people feel like they are in a vice grip. And if you guys don't know what a vice grip is, it's basically a contraption used in the garage or that's where my dad had his and you tighten it and it just gets tighter and tighter. And there's nothing you can do about it.

So many people on the planet are trapped. in the vice grip. Because they won't let go. Now what's helped me over the years. And I mentioned this and he mentioned that that night. I've mentioned it in the podcast before, and this is one of the most challenging things I've ever done in my life and also one of the simplest. Is he said to get out of the vice grip. We have to work from nothing matters. Now on the flip side. Everything matters. But what we get into is we make everything matter about our 3d reality. And don't pay attention to the higher function and essence of ourselves. And he was saying that, and it's easier for some people than others, because if you're a warrior your brain has been conditioned to worry. It's not negative thinking. It may look like negative thinking. But it's your brain. Your brain has created the habituation. Of worrying and you've created neural pathways in your brain. And now you worry, worry, worry, worry, incessantly.

And when we worry incessantly, we're making things matter. Meaning, what are they going to think of me? What about my car payment? What about my job? What about this? What about that? What about this? What about that? And what we're not focusing on as the masses. Is our inner self discovery and that's vital because if we don't focus on our inner self discovery, Plain and simple. We are stuck. Now you may recall again, I don't know. You know, when you started listening, if this is your first episode, thank you for being here. Also it's important to go back to the very first episode and start there. Many people think that older episodes are not valuable. No, you will find hopefully if I've done my job and some weeks I was more into it than others just being candid. But I'm back now, my energy is fully into this and you're going to find value and pretty much you're going to find a nugget in every single episode. So go back to the earlier episodes as well. But inner self discovery is vital. And I did an episode probably, I don't know, three weeks, four weeks, five weeks ago. And I said you were the ultimate power in the universe. By the way I got some hate mail for that one, because Jesus, according to that hate mail, is the ultimate power in the universe and God is.

And I even asked the person, I don't argue with people, but I even asked the person, well, you know, what if God made you and God's the ultimate power in the universe and you were also an ultimate power in the universe anyway. Our work is to Balance the 3d and the 5d, which is why I do the transformational coaching programs and the programs that follow. We must learn to balance the 3d experience on the planet. Most of us are wildly out of control with that. If you don't believe me, look around, look at the amount of people. 80% of Americans are overweight. 80% of Americans are struggling financially. And this kind of goes to all around the world as well for many countries, not all but many. We're out of balance. We don't even know how to self manage the physical experience, much less the 5d experience. And we've got to learn to balance. Most people think balance is only 3d work-life balance.

No true and real balance is balancing the 3d part of you. What I call the lower part of you with 5d the higher essence in the higher energy. in you. Now out of everything I've said. Question for you. Is what you let yourself get sucked into. Think about that? What do you do? Let yourself get sucked into it. Alcohol. And by the way, I'm not judging. I promise. But we have a lot of people from all different walks of life. Alcohol. Porn. Gambling. Politics. Instagram. You think about the things in your life? Just take a survey. Things in your life that you get sucked into many, they just pull you in. Just like that. And before, you know, you're sucked fully in that vacuum. So our work in our time here. You me, all of us, we all incarnated on this planet to grow and evolve. At this particular time in the evolution of the spirit, the species. But what we didn't recognize. And we didn't know, and maybe you've never heard it this way. Is that we incarnated at this time? And it's a package deal. We have the 3d and the 5d. And we are living in both simultaneously and we have to understand and we have to manage and we have to balance the 3d and the 5d.

That phrase, I said, it's a package deal. Hey, this is what you signed up for before you incarnated. So before you even got down here, you knew when I said get down here. I mean on the planet. You knew this is what you signed up for. So the key is not to run like an ostrich and bury your head in the sand. The key, and the only key is evolution and self discovery. And an easy way to start setting you free is adapting. Thinking about this for a moment is adapting. Now, what is adapting, meaning to the kid? Like how, how do you adapt to the chaos in the world? It doesn't mean that you get into the chaos and then adapt to living in chaos, which is what most of the population does. And that's why they're so afraid.

Adapting is recognizing what's happening. And adapting your own energies, your own thinking, your own mind to keep you in peace. That is power and that is adapting. So you have to adapt. Well, you don't have to do anything, but if you want an easier life, Adapt to what is now. We're not going back to 2015. We're not going back to the year 2000. We're not going back to your best year ever in 1999. I'm just making that up. We're not going back. This now is now this is what's in the world and we have to adapt again. Caution. It doesn't mean that you live in energy. It simply means that you would adapt and understand that is the reality on the planet. That you focus on you, which is vital. You evolve, you grow, you get out of your shit. You stop worrying about these things. That you don't even own anyway. None of you own anything. You don't own homes. You don't own cars. You don't even own your body. You own nothing. You are borrowing. You're borrowing every single thing that you have in your life. So why are you getting so upset and worked up about something you don't even own anyway, because then we get attached to it.

So the way to start changing. Is to take a step back. Look at what's happening in the world and adapt, instead of letting it control a whip you around. Adapt and recognize that this is what the world is. And I must evolve. And I must grow. And I must rise above it. Because we're in the process of evolution as a species. And you are part of the species at this moment. And evolution looks around. Is about adaptability. Look at the animal kingdom, things adapt to the world, and species on the planet adapt. Humans don't want to adapt for the most part. And I was going to do a podcast on this and I'll just share it right now. I walked outside one day and the wind was blowing really hard. We had a bad storm, a rainstorm. And I was watching a tree out in front of my house back when I lived in Dallas. And the tree was swaying back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. That's adapting.

What's not adapting is it that the tree never moved at all? But what happened is the tree would break. Think about that metaphor. If the tree doesn't adapt to the elements around it, the tree will die and break. Are you adapting to what's happening at evolving and growing. Or are you fighting what's happening and then getting into the negative emotions around it. That's your transformational take away? Are you adapting to the current circumstances and realities on planet earth? And that means growing and evolving above and higher than what's going on. Or are you fighting it? And then when you fight it, you get into the worry, the resentment, the fear, the anger, all these control issues, all these kinds of things. That's when the tree breaks. Okay, thanks for listening. And I'll catch you over on another episode. I'll see you soon. Bye-bye.