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EPISODE 130: “How Mim Went From A Life Resigned To Cancer To A Lifetime Of Health And Vitality”

September 9, 2020

Just as the headline says, Mim Jenkinson went from a lifetime of identifying as a “cancer survivor” and always worrying that it would come back to a lifetime of health and wellness.

Listen to how Mim says she went from a lifetime of “identifying” as someone who had cancer to someone who put it in her past.

As you’ll hear her say, she now identifies as a “Happy, peaceful person.” She changed her thinking and her world changed.

Many of you might find this very helpful, listen to her explanation of how she went from a life “resigned to living in fear” to a life of peace and happiness. What she can do, you can do.

If you’ve listened to any other interviews I’ve done you’ve often heard people talk about the power of changing their stories and Mim shares the same. When her stories changed about being ill, she changed. And, the same applies to you and me, when we change our stories about ourselves, our entire life changes. This tool of thought can change any area of your life – health, wellness, money, relationships, you can totally transform your life with the power of your stories.

And finally, listen to the power and her story about giving up a life of living in resignation – it’s powerful.

All her story and triumph applies to all of us, it just applies to us in different ways.

And, it’s powerful!

Listen and enjoy!

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Full Episode Transcript

Intro

Jim Fortin
You’re listening to episode number 130 of the Transform your Life from the Inside Out podcast. Now this episode is an interview, and I’m interviewing Mim Jenkinson, and in this episode, she’s going to share with you how she went from a life resigned to cancer to a lifetime of health and vitality. Personally, I think it’s an amazing story. And even if you’re perfectly healthy, what she shares about her mindset and how she shifted in her stories applies to any of you. And pretty much every one of you and me as well in every aspect of our life. Okay, give it a listen.

Jim Fortin
Hi, I’m Jim Fortin, and you’re about to start Transforming Your Life from the inside out with this podcast. I’m widely considered the leader in Subconscious Transformation. And I’ve coached super achievers all around the world for over 25 years. Here, you’re going to find no rah rah motivation. And no hype. Because this podcast is a combination of Brain Science, Transformational Psychology, and Ancient Wisdom all rolled into one to take your life to levels you’ve never thought possible. If you’re wanting a lot more in life, to feel better, to heal, to have peace of mind to feel powerful and alive and to bring more abundance and prosperity into your life, then this podcast is for you. Because you’re going to start learning how to master your mind and evolve your consciousness. And when you do that, anything you want then becomes possible for you. I’m glad you’re here.

Mim’s Journey: Finding The Positive In Life To Move Forward

Jim Fortin
All right, guys, On this episode, I’ve got an amazing I think you’ll agree as you listen an amazing, amazing, wonderful human being Mim Jenkinson. You guys are going to fall in love with her. Her energy is amazing and very infectious and just pulls you right in and her smile is amazing. Beyond that, she has an amazing story for you guys and what I would call this story is her life transformation around health and wellness and where she was when I met her and she enrolled in my programs and where she is now. And I’ve known her because she’s been in my programs now she just finished her second one. So I’ve known her now for I guess, almost a year. Right, Mim? Something like that.

Mim
Right? Yes.

Jim Fortin
Okay. And I’m smiling here ear to ear because I know her story. And I want her to share her story with you, the listeners because there are so many things and so many takeaways, not just about health and wellness. But I think what she’s going to share with you guys you can you can apply to any area of your life, whether it be your health and wellness, relationships, or building a business or whatever it might be. And I do want to point out that she said what everyone says she enrolled in my Transformational Coaching Program TCP because she wanted to grow her business, and nine times out of 10. That’s why most people enroll and they realize that together grow their business, which I haven’t talked about in the the pre-trainings before. And she’s grinning, that you’ve got to grow yourself before you can ever grow your business. So, no, no, I just want to dig in with you. So if you would please tell everyone where you were, when you started with me in terms of your health, and your business, everything, whatever you want to share, but what I what I’d like to establish here is the before and then where you are today. So let’s start with where you were when we met.

Mim
Yeah, of course. Thank you, thank you for having me as well.

Mim
Well, I am based in Australia, I’m a married mother of two small kids and I run my own online coaching business and, and my life was going along swimmingly well, in fact, I reached the point where, and I actually thought the next chapter of my life would be the big long fun run we were just about to move into our forever home business was great. And then I was diagnosed with breast cancer in November 2015, which, as you can imagine, completely pulled the rug from under me, it came out of nowhere, I have no symptoms either. And it really changed the trajectory of everything in my life as it does for so many others. And during that time through treatment, though, I established my business and it actually gave me a focus. So, business wise things were ticking along really well. I was winning awards and through treatment and my diagnosis was all clear everything was fine after treatment, right? I hadn’t really understood at the time was that my mental health particularly had been really affected. And I was slowly getting into a position where I really thought my life would never be the same again, I was walking around in a constant state of fear. And even though lots of things in my life had come back together again and were going really well, my health and my mental health and my well being really wasn’t it was completely off the rails and I was in a constant loop of fear that the cancer was going to come back. I played out stories in my mind at the moment I found out it came back I played out stories, in my mind is how I would tell the people it was just something that I was constantly thinking about, which completely took away all of my inner peace.

Jim Fortin
Yeah, so let’s let me back up here for a second. That’s a pretty, some amazing story. Now, once they found the cancer, and then you were diagnosed, you went through, I guess, chemotherapy or whatever you did.

Mim
Yeah.

Jim Fortin
How long did that take?

Mim
I had. So I was diagnosed in the November and by around August, I finished all of my treatment the next year. So it was 2016. And I still see my oncologist and my surgeon every six months, so it’s still a big part of my life even now, five years on, there are still reminders of what I had. But I was identifying myself as quite proudly as a survivor, as a cancer survivor. And having worked for a major cancer charity over here as well. I was in that space. So I was happy. obviously very happy and extremely grateful to be a survivor, many of my friends and haven’t had the same prognosis as myself and things have changed dramatically for them. So whilst I was very grateful, I think I also carried some guilt as well, but certainly hadn’t moved past that period of my life. And I’ve resigned myself to thinking I never would that it would always be a big part of who I was to identify as being somebody who would have cancer.

Jim Fortin
Yeah. Let me let me go there for a second because you were granting when you said that, and I know why, because of big in the program and things we talk about, is you said, I used to identify, there’s the operative word I used to identify as a cancer survivor. How do you identify now?

Mim
Now I cancer is still a part of my experience, but it’s in my past, just as many other things are in my past as well. Now I identify as being somebody who is a happy, peaceful person. I’m sure we’ll talk about this, but I choose to be a happy, peaceful person. And I am an action taker. I identify as somebody who gets gets on with things who and looks. I look at my life constantly now because I mean, when you’ve been through TCP, you constantly are looking at how you can improve things. But now I’m always looking for opportunities and possibilities and even through the experience of cancer, so many opportunities came from that anyway. Now even more have got one thing that that really was happening for me at the time was the loop the constant loop of these negative worrying fearful thoughts. And I’ve made the decision almost in my mind that that was the way it was then. But at the same time, I was seeing a psychologist at the time and had spoken to my GP and said to them before I joined TCP, even though I’m resigned to living in fear for the rest of my life, I just thought that was the way it was. And no, I couldn’t be happier. I can’t I don’t know how I just know. There’s something else for me. I know I can be happier than this. What are the steps? What are the 10 steps to tell me how to be happier? Because I’ll take them because I know there’s something on the other side. I just didn’t know how to get there.

Jim Fortin
Yeah, so let’s go back there for a second. So you lived in about a two year period before before we met two, two and a half years of even though that you were air quote, a cancer survivor, you lived in the fear and anxiety of oh my gosh, what if it comes back? What if it comes back? Right? Okay. Let’s go here. So a big takeaway for people. And we’re not touting the TCP program, right? In our time together, what we’re doing is showing people what’s possible for them. But what I’d like to do is dig into what was that epiphany in the program and our time together that AHA that awareness to where you recognized that you didn’t have to live in to live in fear anymore.

Mim
Yeah, I know exactly when that was I’m

Jim Fortin
pretty sure.

Mim
I posted one day in the program. I think it was about two or three weeks in. And I wanted to post about this in the Facebook group I’d wanted to talk about this and ask for advice from the beginning but being a fearful person I held back anyway I put the bullet and post it

Jim Fortin
I remember Yeah,

Mim
Yes, sir. essentially say, Can anyone help with this or not, but I’m constantly living in a loop of my cancer is going to come back. And I remember that at the time I had, even when I was diagnosed, I had made the big mistake of googling what my cancer was and desperately looking for happy survivor stories and coming up with very few and and the stories that I told myself and what I found on Google were my cancer was a rare and aggressive kind. There was no known cure. It was it would likely come back as it had for all of these hundreds of others. I had, you know, very, very sadly friends around me who were having secondary cancers or just didn’t survive and the constant stories are filling me with fear. So I posted in the group asking for help and had some amazing help Jenny Pattison and came back and said to me, You know, I’ve been through this myself and in fact she was the instigator to say, I personally don’t identify as a cancer survivor anymore.

Jim Fortin
Wait, wait she did do I’m sorry. Keep on goin’ she did tried the

Mim
Obviously absolutely. And but, and she explained that to me, and that really helped. But after that, I think a few days later, you very, very kindly did it recorded and a bonus session, a bonus training for us all about how we could heal. And I remember distinctly being in the car with my husband saying you’ve got to stop the car Jim’s doing a video. It’s going to be really important. I think it’s a message for me. And about halfway through you actually said that it was partially because of the posts that I’ve made. But in this video message you talked us through the common theme was choice about how we can choose to trust in our bodies because our bodies naturally want to heal. You gave the example of a paper cut and how if we cut ourselves with, you know, a paper cut, if we leave that alone, it will heal itself and all of these stories and the fact that you taught me through how I could change how I was thinking in an instant, and choose to not be in fear anymore, choose to accept that my body already had healed so I could move past it. It literally changed it in that second even though I was only a couple of weeks into the program, just that realization that I’m creating this identity of being a person who lives in a loop of fear. I can just stop that. I can just

Jim Fortin
I love that

Mim
Stop that anytime and choose something new. And and I cried.

Jim Fortin
It was easy,right? It was easy. People make it so hard, but I can stop that right. Well, yeah, let me go here for a second and share something Many years ago, back in 2010, I used to teach people that were unemployed, how to be more persuasive and influential in their job interviews. So many people are in the, in the United States unemployed. And I used to go to networking groups that were people that were networking looking for jobs. And the lady who ran this one group and I used to speak for free back then etc, the lady who ran this group, I’m going to slow down here that for a fact. But her body language was very slumped over. And she got up in front of the audience and said, You know what, guys, it really is a tough time. And we just have to stay positive and we have to support each other. I mean, it’s so tough and there are no jobs out there. And, you know, the good Lord willing, maybe something will just open up for us. And my thought was, is, hey, you’re bringing down the entire room Stop it. And I didn’t say that, but let’s go to community for a second. As you know, In my in my groups, we have the most amazing supportive community. Right?

Mim
Yeah.

Jim Fortin
Now I want to go there is that a lot of people that are in support groups, and I’m not, I’m not hating on I’m not bashing support groups. But you, please you share your perspective here is that a lot of people that are in support groups are not always support groups, because a lot of people in the support groups are in into victim mentality. Poor me, why me? I need help. How could this possibly happen to me? Why did God allow this to happen? I’m not this person. I’m not that person. Oh, my gosh, I’m a survivor. And it’s a lot of not always but a lot of victim mentality. And those groups, but yet they’re calling them support groups. As I say that, what are you hearing and what do you want to share your perspective now by being in a different community? who pulls you out of that kind of mentality?

Mim
Yeah, well, I mean, I had I did have a lot of support initially from support groups but what I found personally, and probably because I’m empathetic, because many of us are, is that I started to take on the stories of other people. Yeah. So it was not not even just the stories playing out in their minds, but their actual diagnosis and stories. And so I pulled myself away intentionally from those and TCP is, is the absolute opposite the community that we have there is, oh, it’s an instant we call ourselves the family, TCP family and we really are theirs. And what’s especially helpful is the fact that we are a global family. So there is literally always somebody to call on or to speak to at any time, but the support everything is left at the door when you enter the community, anything from your past unless you want to bring it into the group or talk about it. There are no judgments.

Jim Fortin
Yeah,

Mim
there is always somebody else who is undergoing a similar situation or have come through a similar situation to you and the genuine love and support and guidance and encouragement and empathy. It’s it’s there constantly. It’s such it’s such a positive place. And we tell it, I love the group. I love them so much the coaches, the group and yourself, Jim, as a combination is amazing. But when I joined, I expected to have coaching just from you just quote unquote from you, and the bonus of the of your amazing team of coaches, and the bonus of the group in the community, which continues every time because most people stay in the program and then we gain more friends each time as well is just phenomenal. Like it’s blown me away. And I’ve always been a person to have close friends and I’m certainly not a loner like I’m quite an extrovert, but having welcomed so many more hundreds of people into my life, who have just lifted me up.I’ll always be grateful.

Jim Fortin
Well, thank you for that. I want to go there for a second what I was looking for which you’ve said in a different way, is in our lives. share with people listening how important the power of community is either positive or negative?

Mim
Yeah, well I am. And this is something else actually that during the past year going to change it, you know, making positive changes in my life I have really thought about who I want in my life and what I want in my life. And it certainly comes to people most of the time as well. The things I will tolerate the boundaries I will set and some people I’ve literally removed them from my life altogether. And I send them away with lots of love, and that I choose to surround myself now with people who don’t bring me down, who don’t bring me into a place of victimhood, or resentment or guilt or shame or judgment or those things. And so, I am now have a sense of energy from people of what they’re going to bring to our tape from my life and I think that that is that comes down to knowing myself so much more now. And certainly in our community there are none of there are none of those things but externally, I, I now recognize in, in my, you know, the groups of people or the people that I’ve had as part of my life previously, haven’t quite been the right fit for me haven’t taken me on the path I wanted to go on. And then now have the confidence and I think the self worth as well to know what I what I need and want in my life, and certainly what I don’t as well.

Jim Fortin
Yeah, let’s look at that for a minute. Before the self worth. So what I hear you saying is that we have to be whatever’s going along in our life, whether it’s in job or health or wellness, we have to be careful about the people we surround ourselves with. Because if we don’t, let’s say for example, it can be helped. Let’s say that your mother, were just making this up. Was going through a lifetime of being unhealthy. Then she’s going to project that on you being part of your community things like it’s hard to heal and just get you To the pain and, and you know what it could come back and all these kind of things as an example that I’m giving you here and people listening. People project their stories about what is real and what’s not real or possible and not possible. And many times people are in to what you and I call victim mentality, meaning they’re blaming, like, there’s nothing I can do about it. I just have to endure, I have to put up with it. Let me resign myself to where I am in life. Then let other people around me tell me how bad life is and what I have to air quote, look forward to and by the way for people listening only minutes as a grantee. So I want to reinforce here that wherever you are in life when you’re trying to get to a higher level, be extremely careful with the community you have around you and the people like Mohammed said, the boundaries and everything else because so many people will actually have a victim mentality towards life or a situation. And then what they will do is project their victim mentality on to you as you should feel like them because it wasn’t easy for them. Well,

Mim
Yeah,

Jim Fortin
it’s because of where they’re holding their thinking, because, you know, members learned with me and really come to know is move your attention and you are where your attention is, right?

Mim
Yes. And as well as that, I think when you’re and for me personally, I was in my own victim mentality with so many things. And I recognize now how I have been the person to blame others when I should have taken responsibility for myself. And so it isn’t just the people to me who have who have been like that as well, but it’s also the people who supported that thinking with me. So whilst I might have enjoyed reveling in blaming others, and it’s not fair and for me, I also had some people in my life who would be like, you know, you’re you’re right, it isn’t your fault. Oh, you must feel so bad. And just reinforce that, that victimhood

Jim Fortin
Poor you I’m so sorry this happened to you, right?

Mim
We love those people when we’re in that space, but we don’t need that we actually want people to, to not pander to that and to not enable that kind of behavior. And one thing that I love about the community as well. And I was thinking about this the other day when I was at the chiropractor, it’s like a constant space of adjustments. And I even with the language that we use is always there’s so many there’s so much help in, in helping us to reframe how we look at things or even rephrase how we say things to ourselves as well. And it’s like these constant micro-adjustments along the way that helps us to live happier lives. That’s how I feel about the program too. And But yeah, I hold my hands up this time last year, I was absolutely in a space of not taking responsibility and whether it came to blame on my business or relationships and and yet things have changed. Very I want to in the past year,

Jim Fortin
Well, let’s go here for a second even though you know people listening even though I’m currently drinking a synergy raw kombucha, which is Watermelon Wonder there’s no kool-aid in the group. I mean, it’s about awareness and free will and choice. And you know, some people grow more than others because of their choices where I want to go here, and pretty much everyone I interview, whether it be in the current group, Matthew, Bonadona, and his interview just went up last week, or anyone else, something that everyone touches on, and I’d like you to share also, is the power of the stories that we tell ourselves.Now before we go there, let’s contrast and I think you’ve already covered part of it. But what stories were you telling yourself after the cancer and what stories are you telling yourself now?

Mim
So after the cancer, I was telling myself, I was a survivor. I was lucky, however.

Jim Fortin
Stop right there. for a second. Yeah, and guys, people listening, I say this on every one of these interviews, people will say, Jim interrupts people, well, I want to pull something deeper out of what she’s saying. So when you told the story of your survivor, what did that mean to you at that time?

Mim
It actually meant honestly that at some I was surviving for a period of time, and at some point, it would come back. That’s what survivorship meant to me at that point. It meant that I was getting by. And it didn’t mean that I was free. I felt like I had no freedom. And it like I say, it came from nowhere. So it wasn’t, I wasn’t expecting to be in that position at all. But it felt that everything changed and that identity I had clouded every single other part of my life, my relationships, my work, how I felt about myself, the hope for the future. So the stories I was telling myself were those stories that have found on Google, unfortunately, that it would come back that I had to make the most of every day because there might not be many days, and that I would always have this half life of the biggest thing was, I’ll never be as happy as I was before. I’ll never be as peaceful as I was before cancer. And I’ll never be the same again. I’ll always have this overshadowing me. And the story that I tell myself now, and I mean this wholeheartedly is my life is so much better now than it was before cancer. So much better. I have so much more peace now I have everything I ever wanted. And if I could go back and tell 2015 Mim that things may have been different, but we work with what we have at the time. But the story is incredibly different. Now,I tell myself the story that I am, I’m healed. And but more so I’m healthy. I’m healthy. I am happy, I am enjoying life. I am a positive person. I always look for opportunities. I’m successful in everything I do. And the stories I tell myself now focused on now, and that they’re not focused on the past anymore,

Jim Fortin
or the future. I’m going to be like this forever because I’m a survivor and Guys that’s why I interrupted her because I knew she had a negative story, even to those words, I am a survivor. Now, many of us in the world might say, well, that’s positive. But yes, she had a negative connotation tied to that positive. And the negative connotation literally kept you suffocating. It kept you in anxiety, it stoled your peace, right?

Mim
Absolutely.

Jim Fortin
Okay. Now in the first group TCP that I did, several years ago, I had a woman in there and she had a dramatic story like yours and she she said, I was diagnosed with a terminal illness. And as a result of that, I was given a I don’t know what you call them as little things you hang from your mirror and it’s for the handicap parking you know, I guess a handicap little yellow tag or whatever you did the formal name is. And she said, You know, I could drive anywhere drive right up to the front and park right there because I’m handicapped and I have a terminal illness. And she said, I refused to ever put that handicap hanger sticker in my car, because I refused to accept the identity of an air quote, sick person.

Mim
I love that.

Jim Fortin
Yeah, exactly. And as a result of that, what happened was, is that she healed because literally it’s mind ever body. Okay, so let me segue from the episode for just one minute. The fact that you’re here listening to my podcast means that you are serious and you want to transform your life from the inside out. Now, that being said, you’re going to want to mark your calendar because I am doing a live no charge free training starting on September. The third, it’s going to be a three part training and it’s called the BE DO HAVE series training. And what we’re going to do is we’re going to dig deeper into ways, ways of identity that you need to be, so that you can do the things that you need to do. So that you can have what you want to have in life, the health, wealth, success, money, and all the things that you want. So whatever you do, Mark your calendar, September the third 3pm, Central Standard Time. And, again, whatever you do now, click the show notes. Click the link and get registered for this. No charge training. Okay, back to the episode. Now let’s get let’s go to Jenny P. that you talked about earlier. I have known her not people listening don’t know her but I’ve known her since college 30 years, and she was in one of my programs she’s in now. And she was in I think she’s on her second round and she used to constantly call herself “The Cancer Survivor.” And then she had all that baggage with the identity of being a cancer survivor. And I don’t know if we can put it into words. But now Mim, you’re not a cancer survivor per se in the way that you were. Because something you didn’t mention that I think you’ve accepted for yourself is that you’re a healer.You can heal. Right?

Mim
Yeah. All the time.

Jim Fortin
And that eliminates all the fear and the worry and the anxiety that you had about oh my gosh, what because when you were going, Oh my gosh, what if it comes back? That would throw you in the automatic anxiety?

Mim
Yeah. And the biggest and, and I think that anyone who has undergone any kind of a diagnosis will relate to this will I know they will. Even though I knew intellectually, rationally, legally adopted I will never be able to say to me, you killed it. 100% This will never come back, even though I knew that would never happen. And I always longed for it. I just wanted someone to say to me “You’re okay now” and I could or feel you know how relieved it might be to have that feeling. And the call that you did the the Epiphany for me,that was that call. That was that permission which came, which even though you facilitated it, it didn’t come from you. It obviously came from within me. I gave myself that permission, I gave myself that statement of, you’re healed, you’re okay now go and live your life you’ve nothing to worry about. Everything is going to be amazing. And that was what I was waiting for. That I knew I was never going to get from the person I at that point wanted it from. It’s the same with anything we give ourselves permission and we we have the choice to think however we want to think about anything. And that was the call I was waiting for. Now if to know now that I can make that call over any aspect of my life is so liberating and so freeing, but I know that so many other things have gone through a diagnosis will relate to that we know we want the call we know it isn’t coming but if I could explain to you that that’s within you all the time as long as you know if you can realize that you have the choice to be whoever you want to be and to not be the cancer survivor if you don’t want to but even be the person who will never have it again. That’s how I choose to be now.

Jim Fortin
Yeah, and let me go there for a second. Is that you know, and people that have listened to the podcast I’ve always been healthy. I’m 55 I’ve always been healthy. I’ve not had a prescription since 1992. And you heard me say that last year. And then for whatever reasons that happened, I went into heart failure in 2020. I ended up in the hospital. The doctors don’t know why and they did three days of all these really excited I’ve health insurance but really expensive looking into my heart and pictures and all the all this stuff. And the cardiologist said to me I had two cardiologist in one was a Debbie Downer and got always positive. The chief cardio was positive And he’s like, we don’t know what has happened. He goes, you’re what we call a unicorn. You don’t belong here. I mean, you’re, you know, we would see something like this when you’re 70, not when you’re 55. And all the all my bloodwork was good, everything was like A okay. And they’re like, why are you here? What caused this? Now, the chiefs, the chief cardiologist said to me, he goes, I give you a 70% chance of full recovery. And the Debbie Downer said, I give you like, all these bad things can happen in your life, and you’re going to be on medication, heart medication for the rest of your life, and you might not be able to live the life you used to live and all this stuff. I remember in the hospital listening, and I’m like, no, that’s not the case. That’s not going to be the case for me. And that was in February. This is the end of August, so right at six months ago. And as of today, now, I have to give credit to my brother in law, the Shaman because he’s like, he’s like you Want to stay on meds? I’ll help you or do you want off, I will help you. I’m also not advocating that anybody listening, just get off your meds. I’m just not doing that you do what’s best for you, however you choose to do that. But as of today, having testing and everything done, I am on nomads, when the doctors told me I would be on meds for the rest of my life. And I said, Absolutely not. I am not doing that. I’m healthy. Everything is great. Everything from blood pressure to blood work, and I wean myself off the meds now I didn’t just wean myself off and not do anything else. I mean, my brother in law, the shaman substituted all kinds of herbs and different things that he wanted me to do. And it was it was a process of about six months, but today I’m perfectly healthy. But my point is this for anyone listening, you verify this, I verify it is that whatever we accept from our doctors, no matter what degree they’re an expert or not an expert. I mean mine had a PhD and an MD from Stanford, a smart guy. But whatever we accept from our doctors or healthcare practitioners about what will or will not happen to us, especially if they give us something like, well, I don’t know what’s going to be a thing for the rest of your life and you got to deal with it.

Mim
Yeah.

Jim Fortin
And we accept that, that will become our story. And that will become our reality. Where would you love to go is in the healing, right?

Mim
And I’ve had one of those doctors as well. And who would say things like, Oh, you have a chronic condition, and look at me with such pity and say, Oh, you’re so young when you were diagnosed? I was 36. So another story I had was I’m a young mum with cancer. That’s the story that was fed to me a lot. And I am allowed to say to my husband, you know, if I ever have to see that doctor randomly, I’ll say that doctors lied to me again today. He said, I have a chronic condition and I don’t, but it’s so different when you are actually. I mean, my medical team all in all has been amazing and so positive, but I could have been unlucky and had doctors whose said other things, and I think some of them don’t realize the power of their language and words Oh, well, yeah, thankfully, my medical team as a whole is the opposite of that and have you know, they followed my transformational journey as well. And I’ve told them how I’ve managed to change things and you know, hopefully shared with them things that they can inspire their other patients to do. But I don’t I mean, even the word patient, I don’t consider myself a patient anymore. And I look forward to my my appointments. I have a scan every year and a mammogram every year, and I see my surgeon every year as well. And I look forward to those appointments now because that’s my I call them my all clear appointments, I know in advance that it’s just going to be a really positive, happy experience. If anything, it’s just a chat. It’s an opportunity to catch up with them, you know, so I do identify so much differently now.

Jim Fortin
Yeah, and I want to take that a little a little further is that we have to be careful what stories we accept and who we listen to even healthcare practitioners. Now what I want to share with everyone listening is if you need medical attention, then by all means get it. I’m not wanting to skew Western medicine whatsoever. I think it has its place in our lives.

Mim
Yeah.

Jim Fortin
Now, the power of suggestion though, when I was eight years old, I grew up in a small farming community in Texas. And I used to go barefoot in the summer because not because I couldn’t afford shoes. It’s just I used to go barefooted. I stepped on a little piece of glass, a little sliver, a tiny little sliver, and I had to go to the doctor and shoot some novocaine. And so he can, you know, find the glass and I was eight years old. And he said to me, he goes, Jimmy, he goes, brace yourself, this is going to hurt. And so what he did and you know, me being a hypnotist, I know this years later, is that he created expectation for me being the “doctor” because my mother always told me to listen to “the doctor” and do what the doctor tells you. He created expectation and it really really, really hurt. And it hurt probably 10 times more than it would have if he said, You know what, you’re going to feel a little pressure or this or that the power of suggestion, it would know where if hurt as badly as it did, because I was braced up ready for some pain and I screamed like really loud, at the doctor’s office. So what I want everyone to take away and reinforce as you wish, is that we have to be careful who we listen to, because in the medical community, again, I’m not knocking the medical community. But you know what, when you talk to doctors, I know because I was just in the hospital six months ago, when you talk to a doctor about holistic healing or self-healing in particular, they look at you like you have three eyes. Like how is it possible? Are you kidding, we need to hook you up to this and pump you full of that and do this to you and do that to you and probe you here and poke you there. And then you’re going to heal, but if you use your mind to heal, which is divine intelligence, it’s the force that runs through us, all my gosh, that’s not going to work because it just doesn’t work and we doctors know that but let us hook you up to machine and poke a lot of pills in you. Right?

Mim
Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. And I’ve been and I certainly advocate Western medicine as well. And I’ve had an incredible experience in terms of my medical team and the treatment that I’ve had. But thankfully for me, I’ve also had a medical team who is completely an onboard and read up and into this kind of healing as well the power of our minds and it isn’t just, I mean, this is another story that we told them were diagnosed with cancer, think positively if you think positively Everything will be okay. But there’s a big difference in thinking positively and actually thinking your life into existence. Just putting it you know, a cherry on the top and, and a smile on your face and feeling hopeful isn’t the same thing as actually doing the work and making the choice to to be different and feel differently? And I felt some resentment. Well, I felt a lot of resentment at the time. When I was told by so many people, just be positive. It’s like I really am. And yeah, that made a big difference. Now thankfully Yeah, like I say my medical team have been MNDC and UC, holistic practitioners as well. And but I’ve had a really like a holistic view of my of my treatment and everything since then, as well. And I feel very supported. However, I do know many friends in the community have also had cancer, and I’ve had a very different experience to me. So I’m just you know, the power of our minds is, is obviously that what we can do for ourselves is immense. But now because of how I’ve been able to move forward and tell myself different stories from my cancer experience, that has completely now gone to every other part of my life as well in my relationships in my work, and my well-being generally in my health, and so yeah, the repercussions have been awesome.

Jim Fortin
Let me take that a little further. Again, here is a thank you for bringing bringing that Up is what if I’m going to, you know, share with the listeners here that distinction you made? What if you still identified as a cancer survivor and all the negative stories that went with that, but simultaneously you thought positive, it doesn’t really help that much because you still identify as a cancer survivor and all the stories that go with that.

Mim
Now sounds like a lot of hard work

Jim Fortin
Exactly. Now let’s go to where you’ve gone to, is that you became at which people hear me say a lot, you became the identity of a healthy and well person. Now, incidentally, you still think positively, but you’re not thinking positively as a cancer survivor. You’re thinking positively by accepting the identity and creating the identity of a well person. And that’s apples and oranges.

Mim
Yeah, it’s the difference between and there’s a fine line between the whole fake it till you make it and just being it, you know, being the person you want to be. And there’s no fight. There’s no hard work. I’m not telling myself one thing but believing the other. I’m actually just letting go of all of those old stories and old feelings and old fears and old resentment, literally letting them go. It was the same when I quit drinking alcohol, which was an a kind of a side effect to the PTSD having had cancer and no longer identifying as being somebody who drinks alcohol. So now I identify as an alcohol free person, there’s no issue now I don’t I don’t feel deprived. I don’t long for a life I used to have or may have had and, and, you know, that’s, that’s another transformation that I’ve had personally myself and it’s all down to identity. It’s all down to not who I’m no longer am but who am I? Who am I now and who do I want to be?

Jim Fortin
Yeah, and if I remember I could be very wrong here and pleased correct me, did you give up alcohol in your first TCP training? Or was that

Mim
I just given up so I gave up in January 2019. And I joined TCP in March by actually wrote my book during TCP.

Jim Fortin
Okay.

Mim
And so yeah, that was out in January this year. And that was 100%, down to the positive transformation that I’d had that continued through TCP and the support that I’d had as well. And again, identifying somebody who believed so strongly and who she was that I could put that out into the world without any fear, either.

Jim Fortin
Let me go there for a second. Also, you know, people listening and if we have anybody that is being diagnosed with an illness, so we’ve established that what shifted for you was your identity, not the fake until you make it not the positive stories, but your identity. And I’m sure people are wondering, well, how did she create that identity? Now by watching you and listening to you and again, correct me if I’m inorrect about this is it was a single epiphany that you had that shifted your identity. I remember doing that live call and that live call when I said you know the body heals itself when you allow it. You cut your finger, you don’t have to focus on it. Basically your finger will heal itself. What I’m curious about is in that moment when you recognize that is true papercut heals itself. We don’t have to, you know, but our whole body heals. Now, I don’t know but was that when you moved into the identity of being a healer or able to heal yourself?

Mim
And yes, because I literally told myself I am healed and focused on I am healthy, I am strong. I am whole I am perfect. I you know, I’ve been through surgery, but I felt I felt perfect and whole and I I always knew that I had the capability to change things. But I didn’t realize that was something I could change, I actually realized that healing was something I could give myself. I always like to say, I always felt that that would have to come from somebody else that would have to come externally from a doctor.

Jim Fortin
Stop.It had to come externally as opposed to internally, it was a power shift when you recognize that my life and my healing is not contingent upon the external. It’s contingent upon the internal because people can have all the doctors and medicine in the world and still kick the bucket.

Mim
Yeah.

Jim Fortin
And then there are people

Mim
And how liberating and powerful you know, I know I feel I can do anything I could. It was the same. It’s the same feeling. Although this continues for a lot longer. When I had my my kids when I gave birth to my kids, and I felt I mean, shopping moms can relate however that happens. I felt like Superwoman like I’ve been I’ve done that I’ve created that I’ve made a life. I’ve made a human I’ve gotten through birth, which I I’ve been told for decades was going to be horrific, horrific experience. And it wasn’t

Jim Fortin
Stopped right there people giving you expectations and stories about how it was going to be for you. And you even went into it actually having that expectation and story.

Mim
Well, actually, I changed that beforehand. So I have this great fear about childbirth and everything we see on the TV about the screaming and the white knuckling and the pain and the terror and to the point where I actually thought at that point, God, I might not be able to have kids because it’s, it can’t get over this fear. And I actually went through a hypno birthing course which is obviously self hypnosis and I hit no birth both of my babies It was the most relaxed comfortable and pleasurable experience it you know, it could have been and, and so I have proof in my life, of how I’ve gotten through similar fearful situations before internally like you saying not even though I learned the skills from somebody else, you apply them yourself. You choose whether to apply them or not.

Jim Fortin
Yeah, let’s go there for a second. As you know, and I teach in TCP, I teach self hypnosis. You’ve used the word already. I already see myself healed. Now obviously, I don’t know if you learned it prior to hypno birthing or with me. But you know, that’s a hypnotic principle. What does that mean? Explain for people listening about the importance of seeing themselves underlined, and write down the word already healed.

Mim
To me, it means it isn’t an issue anymore. It’s in the past. I’m already, there’s nothing I need to work on, except living my life today. Because it’s already done. It’s done. And there’s no working towards something anymore. I accept it. And I feel positive and free, because it’s done.

Jim Fortin
Yeah, let’s said it for a minute, though, is working towards if we’re if we’re not already healed, we’re working towards being healed, which means we’re still not healed. But if we see ourselves as already healed, we are literally fooling the subconscious mind to buy into she’s already healed. Therefore, the subconscious mind is going to respond and manage your physiology and your brain chemistry and your body chemistry as if you are all ready. healed, right?

Mim
Yeah, its done.

Jim Fortin
that’s what I want. Nobody has done. That’s what I wanted people to hear is that many of us on our healing journeys, we see ourself as healing I will get well sooner or later. Well, that’s not the same thing as seeing yourself as already well, because the unconscious mind doesn’t know the difference between real and imagined. And if you keep imagining, I’m healing, I’m healing I’m healing. What you’re really imagining is that you’re not well, whereas if you imagine I’m already healed, now you’re directing your unconscious mind to heal you. Okay. Couple more places here is I know that you’ve talked about PTSD and Anxiety. So how does that factor into into all the entire story where you know,

Mim
Yeah, well, PTSD didn’t happen or it certainly wasn’t. recognized and then afterwards diagnosed probably until a couple of years after my diagnosis I’ve had. And again, it’s because I’d resigned myself to thinking that I always had to live in a fearful situation and wrote about it. I remember very, feeling very not happy but content with that being my life. And but it played out in different ways. It certainly made my insomnia much worse. It had me turning to drinking far too much alcohol too much, you know too much and too frequently, and to really not addressing the fear that and the issues and the story loops that were going on in my mind. It was constantly in my head I had, I lived every day from the moment I woke up to the moment I finally went to sleep, constantly thinking in some way that cancer was going to return to me, and it clouded every single decision I made every single feeling and judgment that I had. And it was only afterwards looking back that I realized how bad it really got. And so having the diagnosis and I did work with a psychologist who was he was amazing and definitely set me on the right path to make changes. But really, it wasn’t until the point that I am stopping drinking definitely helped. But to the point where I joined the program and listening to that call from you that I realized, I can change my circumstance at any time. And obviously, I can’t speak to other people and their situation and circumstances but certainly for me, I had the power to change things, and I decided to change it and instantly everything changed. It was instant. And I picked up the tools and one thing that you mentioned earlier about having the power to move your attention to me that was too easy. Just sounded too easy of what

Jim Fortin
New wav, new wave.Hookie dokie dokey. Well, we will whatever right that that can’t be as simple as that.

Mim
I just think of something more positive or helpful. And maybe my attention, I’ll be honest, when I was going through the PTSD and the anxiety, I would literally lie in bed and, or wherever I was in the house or in the world. And whatever negative thoughts came, in my mind, this is how I started. And this is something that people can probably take to do themselves. If they’re really struggling to break their attention. I would look around me and I would look at a plant we have lots of plants in the house. And I would move my attention by saying, look, there’s a plant, it’s green, it has this many leaves 123 and I’ll get to the point of in a few seconds, my attention was moved and I pick myself up and go and do something else. And that’s how it started. It started with simple, but I can’t I didn’t feel like I could just switch my mind to like we said before, something more positive, actually needed to do something really simple to shift it and then get carried on with you know, whatever it was I was doing and after a really short amount of time, those moments of thinking about the fearful thoughts even though there was still coming up there were much shorter to the point where eventually now they have to come up at all.

Jim Fortin
Yeah, let me add something here two things. Number one is moving your attention as a conscious activity. And we may be dealing with things like clinical depression that are coming unconsciously. So I wouldn’t advocate that we just work from let’s move our attention. But what I would advocate is maybe looking into self-hypnosis or looking into hypnosis like you know, men talked about using it for birthing even like the National Institute of Health in the US has confirmed that hypnosis is effective. Excuse me for treating PTSD and we can we can we can heal these things with our mind. And like for me once we’re done here every day I drink magnesium chloride for my heart, and I drink it for a lot of years, but I stopped drinking it many years ago when I should have been on it and I wasn’t the whole different story. And it tastes horrible. And when it when it’s horrible, it’s like it’s like licking a metal pipe. I remember many years ago when I drank it, one of the first times I’m like, I’m gagging drinking like this magnesium chloride because I’m very sensitive, I don’t like the taste really kind of throws me sideways. And I remember one day that I had to take it. This was 2004. So 16 years ago, and this is when I started my journey into the power of living your attention, is I had to drink it. And as I was drinking it, I noticed a beautiful Bluebird outside the kitchen window that landed on the fence. And as I was drinking, I was paying attention to the bluebird. And I’m like, Well, I drank this and it wasn’t even bad. Why? Because I moved my attention because my kitchen was, Oh, this is bad. This is bad. This is bad. Yeah, to the bluebird, and it completely altered my my sensory experience of drinking the magnesium chloride, right. So you’ve had that experience, okay,

Mim
100% and it started with hypno birthing, but even since then, and especially in the last couple of years, I’ve really gotten into meditation and I find I feel very susceptible certainly to self hypnosis and but it’s something that I really look forward to doing now and has made some significant changes in my life as well and will continue to it’s something I’ll practice forever.

Jim Fortin
Yeah, I think people listening if there’s one takeaway and I want to ask you so you might want to let your your wheels start running that one takeaway that if somebody sat across from you and they’re like, Mim, I’m sick, what do I do? What would you say? Don’t go there yet. We’ll go there in a minute. So I want to let your wheel start running. But I want to say I think hopefully it can across in our time together by listening to you that anyone listening recognizes you can change your life in any given moment. No matter where you are, what’s going on your money, your health, your wellness, your relationships. You have that power, to make choice to shift your life and as Mim said, I often joyfully laugh at people in TCP Because so many people are like, My life changed what happened. And I’m like you change, when you change on the inside your life will change on the outside. So I think if I were to synopsize this one episode, it would be how powerful that every one of you are as a human being to create your experience. But it comes not from changing the outside, which is what we all try to do. Because we don’t know any differently to changing on the inside. Now, Mim, let’s go to you and wrap this up, is if somebody were sitting across from you, and they were asking you, how do they heal, and it was just you talking to someone else, you know, your experience having healed? What would you tell them?

Mim
I would certainly tell them and tell myself a couple of years ago, that the change that I wanted was always within me and to have the confidence to trust myself and to trust what I want Wanted who I wanted to be. And also, one thing that we told a lot as well in the cancer community is to take one day at a time, which really didn’t mean too much to me in the beginning, but it’s so much more meaningful to me now. Because it gives me permission to let go of the past and the future to let go of everything that isn’t right now, who do I want to be right now? And how liberating that is to actually only focus on being that person to not have to think well who was I yesterday? Or what about the things that happened to me years ago? Or what about the fear of the unknown in the future? Just to focus on now and trusting that if I want to be any differently to look within me and then be that person today?

Jim Fortin
Yeah, let me add there even though I said we’re gonna wrap up is in the TCP your first one there was a kid in there. And as you know, we really don’t have a lot of 20 somethings they are generally 30 and older, and this kid was hiking the Inca Trail down on Machu Picchu. And he messaged me and he goes, john, because I have to hike the crawl tomorrow and I’m so afraid. And I said, Why? And he goes, because I have a bone spur that pops up sometimes. And what if I hike tomorrow and my bone spur pops up? And I said, You’re not even there yet .You’re not it’s not even tomorrow. Yeah. Why are you concerning yourself? 24 hours ahead of time. And then worry, worry, worry, worry, worry for a day at a time of something that may never happen and probably won’t happen. So two days later, he messaged me and he goes, You know what? I had no problems hiking the Incan Trail. And he goes, I don’t even know what I was getting into the day before projecting that all that was going to happen to me and it didn’t. So people hear me a lot in the podcast talking about and people think it’s woowoo and blah, blah, whatever. But living in the now. I haven’t done an episode on there is no past. There is no future. Your life is only right now. Mim and I have been talking now for near an hour. And you’ve been listening for an hour and where we started no longer exist and where you’re going to you know where you’re going to be 15 minutes from now isn’t here yet there is nothing but now. So what Mim is talking about is that she wasn’t worrying about where she’d come from or where she’s going. She’s healthy right now but notice this everyone listening and Mim is that in that identity in the now you’re healthy and that identity in the now it wasn’t I may not be healthy later, or I was sick in the past. Right now in this moment. I am healthy. So and Mim heard me say this and I’ve mentioned this recently in a podcast episode I think yesterday is I gave you an STD in our time together, surrender trust and do not doubt just let go.

Mim
Thank you for that.

Jim Fortin
Barely the people say thank you for the STD. But people in my group are like thank you for the STD is just ah breath, surrender this is where I am is like even when I was in the hospital and this one cardiologist gave me all this bad news. I didn’t buy into it but I’m like wherever I am is where I am right now. And I already knew I trusted myself because the paper cut example that I gave you already knew that I was going to heal. Now I might not be there yet. But Mim I haven’t told anyone this I laugh at this. When I was there, the floor that I was on was the cardiac floor. And I was there for three days. And they have like all these hospital rooms around the big circle in the middle with nurse’s station and all that kind of stuff. probably pretty common. And when the physical therapist came to get me he was some 20 something caddie he gets time to go for your walk. And all I did was walk around the circle, maybe 75 yards in total, maybe not even that. The very first day. I’m like, when did I that’s really hard to do. But I knew that I was isn’t going to stay there. And now like my home in Arizona, I can go hiking, and at four and a half thousand feet. But when I was there in the hospital, I wasn’t like, Oh, can I hike in the future? Can I do this kind of? No, because I knew that once a healer always a healer, so I surrendered and I just let go, this is where I am. I trust that I know that I’m going to heal, and I do not doubt that I’m going to heal because my body heals naturally. That’s a good example. I mean, would you in your experience

Mim
100% and by the way, no one can see but Jim is the picture of health seeing you looking this healthy before ever absolutely I mean, I you know, similar and not similar, but being in the chemo Ward with the the older ladies I was 36 and they were in their 70’s 80’s 90’s and, and you know, even then even then I remember thinking this is surely not for me, and but there’s so much power in where we are today. Where are we in this and moment and what if we’re not happy? Do something differently? Don’t Don’t be in this moment for any longer than you need to be.

Jim Fortin
It’s so crazy. You said that I could talk to you forever and people listening, you know, people listening right now if you’ve never been sick before, or you’ve never let me back up when she said, if you’re not happy then do something different. people listening that haven’t been they’re kind of like, yeah, yeah, blah, blah, are we done yet? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And they don’t get it. But so many people don’t get the simplicity of that is there’s a, his name is Jim Rohn. And people used to call him America’s business Philosopher. And he said, You know what, something along the lines if you’re not happy where you are in life, then change. You’re not a tree, you can change. So anyway, Mim, thank you so much. I know I know. There’s going to be a lot of people listening and if you’ve not, if you’re not having a health ailment and you’re listening, what I want to point out is it’s no different for anything in life, what she talked about We might not be talking about healing, but the overall theme of our conversation is that you have power. And the question is, how do you choose to use that power, and then the world we live in to being candid. We live in a toxic world and a negative world and a Debbie Downer world and the world right now, in 2020, the world’s coming to an end and this economy did this and this person is running for this office and let me be negative, negative, negative, negative. And you know what? I call that a virus in itself. And if you let that virus attack you, it’s going to drag you down. So move your attention to the outcome that you want to create in life. All right, anything else?

Mim
Oh, I’m just so grateful to you, Jim. Thank you for that. Thank you for everything. Thank you for guiding me and thank you to your amazing community and your coaches. I will forever be a part of TCP and I will forever be so grateful as well. The fact that I feel so powerful now, you know in every aspect of my life and relationship and health and business and the fact that I’m having an impact on others because of that is literally down to those very small shifts that have had such magical and powerful repercussions. So thank you for everything that you do.

Jim Fortin
And thank you for letting me serve. So all right, everyone taken, take what you got here and use it and apply it on your own life. Thank you again, ma’am. Okay, take care. Bye.

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