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EPISODE 380: “Who Is Don Xavier, The Shaman? Part 2”

April 8, 2025

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In part two of this deeply personal series, Jim Fortin continues to explore the mystery and wisdom of Don Xavier, the shaman and spiritual teacher who has profoundly shaped Jim’s life and work. After receiving overwhelming feedback from part one, Jim returns with more extraordinary stories—many never shared before—offering listeners a rare glimpse into the spiritual teachings, experiences, and insights he’s gained over decades of walking this transformational path. 

This episode is packed with powerful anecdotes—from ceremonies under the stars in sacred lands to dreamtime revelations that defy logic. Jim dives deeper into what it means to walk the path of awareness, the dangers of over-identifying with the analytical mind, and the spiritual significance behind everyday and extraordinary events. He also shares text messages from Don Xavier that point to the core of what true shamanism is: merging with the “All,” or Anima Mundi. 

If you’re ready to open your heart, quiet your mind, and awaken to a reality beyond 3D logic, this is an episode you won’t want to miss. 

What You’ll Discover in This Episode 

  • The misunderstood path of shamanism (00:00) – Jim reintroduces Don Javier and sets the record straight about who he really is—and isn’t. 
  • Belief, skepticism, and “cult” misconceptions (02:50) – Why working with Don Javier is the opposite of dogma and belief-based systems. 
  • Transformation through experience, not belief (06:13) – Jim shares how growth happens when you let go of needing to “know” and embrace being. 
  • The power of observation over intellect (09:09) – Discover why true awareness begins when you stop thinking and start seeing
  • Merging with the All: Anima Mundi (12:06) – Don Xavier’s profound message on connecting with nature, energy, and all living beings. 
  • Miracles in the mundane (15:01) – From disappearing winds to perfect recoveries, Jim recalls unexplainable events during sacred ceremonies. 
  • Freeing yourself from the analytical mind (17:57) – How trying to figure everything out actually weighs you down and limits your evolution. 
  • Dreams, animals, and messages from beyond (20:51) – Stories that challenge logic but expand your perception of reality and karma. 
  • The future of humanity and the threat of AI (24:11) – Don Xavier’s sobering warning about how technology may again lead to humanity’s collapse. 
  • A call to awaken (36:12) – Jim’s closing message on the illusion of certainty and the importance of living with curiosity, awareness, and heart. 

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There’s more to life than meets the eye—and it’s not what you think. The more we try to figure everything out, the more we distance ourselves from true wisdom. Growth begins when we quiet the analytical mind and return to the stillness of observation, connection, and trust in the unknown. As Don Javier teaches, your mind is not your brain—real transformation starts when you stop thinking and start seeing

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You’re listening to the transform your life from the inside out podcast. This episode is titled, who is Don Xavier, the shaman part two. got so much feedback from par one and I just did it to help you guys better understand, you know, the information that I bring to you where I get a lot of it, primarily the spiritual information. And I got so much feedback. I decided to do a part two. And in this episode, I share additional stories with you. 
 
because I think as I’m sharing some of these with you, that may resonate with many of you. So if you’d like to go on this journey with me, keep listening. Hi, I’m Jim Fortin, and you’re about to start transforming your life from the inside out with this podcast. I’m widely considered the leader in subconscious transformation, and I’ve coached super achievers all around the world for over 25 years. Here, you’re going to find no rah rah motivation and no hype. 
 
because this podcast is a combination of brain science, transformational psychology, and ancient wisdom all rolled into one to take your life to levels you’ve never thought possible. If you’re wanting a lot more in life, to feel better, to heal, to have peace of mind, to feel powerful and alive, and to bring more abundance and prosperity into your life, then this podcast is for you because you’re going to start learning how to master your mind and evolve your consciousness. 
 
And when you do that, anything you want then becomes possible for you. I’m glad you’re here. So this is part two. I’d never planned the part two of who was Don Xavier, the shaman. Before I even start this episode, I want to say completely irrelevant to the episode for the most part. I never had allergies until I moved to Sedona, Arizona. Each and every year they’ve gotten worse and worse. And this year. 
 
was the first year where I’m like, okay, these guys are unbearable. Now I didn’t do anything about it because I mean, I know how to use hypnosis for healing and usually anything that I get air quote, get goes away, but these have gotten worse and worse every year. The reason I tell you that is because I may do a lot of sniffling in this episode. They hit me pretty hard today. I just want to preface the episode with that. Okay. So why am I doing a part two? I realized from the feedback from you guys, 
 
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that you may see some things in yourself or come to additional awarenesses by these stories that I’m sharing. And when I thought about this, actually last night as I was creating this episode, I actually created a different episode for today. I actually listened to that episode, who was Don Xavier, the shaman, and I thought, you know, I can add a lot more to this. So I decided to do one more. I remember Don Xavier, 
 
every month would bring us together and say, I want you to share your insights from dream time with the group. We would each bring these insights, these dreams that we had about various things that we were working on as a group. And I remember as other people would share their stories or I would share mine, somebody would say, wait, I had a dream just like that. 
 
But what I didn’t get was the final piece that you just shared. And so you’re giving me the final piece to the puzzle to this dream. What we found is that we were all part of a puzzle, but we were all a different piece of the puzzle. So as I’m sharing this with you guys, I’m thinking if nothing else, then maybe, maybe we’ll be entertaining and interesting as I share some things they may actually be pieces of a puzzle for you. 
 
I do want to point out, I did not mention this in the last episode on who was Don Xavier the shaman, but I’ve said it before. There is some dude on YouTube that calls himself Don Xavier. That’s not Don Xavier, my brother-in-law. My brother-in-law doesn’t have any social media. He has a phone number that he’s had literally for 25 years. And don’t tell him I told you this, but I think he finally got off from it, but he had AOL. 
 
for crying out loud, who has AOL still? So he was using that probably a couple of years ago. But the point is he does not use social media at all. And unless you’ve met him personally, then you have no experience with him physically. I also want to point out that working with Don Xavier, there’s no rules. There’s nothing to do, nothing to believe. There is no leader. There’s 
 
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no mandates, there’s no obligations, we’re not required to do anything, and there’s no money involved. When I say no money involved, what I mean is that there’s no charge to work with him. And I’m the people that have worked with him, as I mentioned before, for decades and never given him a penny, and he doesn’t ask for it. He’s not allowed to. The whole point is that sometimes I’ve heard the chatter, 
 
Trust me, people think, you’re in a cult. And no, if you look up the rules of what a cult is, this is the opposite of that. There’s nothing to believe. As a matter of fact, working with him, his biggest objective or one of the biggest objectives is to get you to believe nothing, to drop your old beliefs, forget your old beliefs and literally start observing the world. He’s often said he’s not a leader and he doesn’t act. 
 
like a leader per se. And no one’s ever told what to do in terms of you have to do this or you’re required to do this or it just doesn’t exist. I remember in the very first channeling with him back in 1996, when his benefactor, his mentor Don Juan came through him. Don Juan said in that channeling, something along the lines, you can never leave this path and there’s nothing to go back to. 
 
And I thought, well, yes, I can leave this path and I can definitely go back to my old life. And I recognize the metaphor in that statement. There’s nothing to go back to. The point was when you grow and evolve, you become someone new. And when you become someone new, there’s nothing to go back to because that person doesn’t exist anymore. So what I want to do is I just want to share some 
 
tidbits, some nuggets, different things, some experiences, some travels, and hopefully intentionally you’ll find some value here for you. So many of you guys worry about what other people think about you. Some of you guys are obsessed with what other people think about you, which is why you get into fear of judgment, why you get into a lot of your shame, why you get into perfectionism and why you get into overthinking. 
 
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I remember one day when I lived in New York, I called Don Xavier and I’ve said this phrase before on the podcast, but I’ll share it here. And this context might make it more meaningful for you. But he said to me, he used to call me Cunado, which is brother-in-law in Spanish. He said Cunado, I’m a sorcerer. I’m a shaman. I’m a Babel owl. Some people think that I am the work of the devil. 
 
Some people think that I am a spiritual master and it doesn’t matter. I am what I am. When it comes to you, you are what you are, whatever that is. And I’m sure somewhere here listening on the podcast, because I have people like this in TCP, people that identify this way or in the process of this, but transgender. 
 
And so many people are shamed for, and that’s a spiritual journey. Really it is. It’s not just biological. It’s not just brain-based. It’s not just neural. There’s a spiritual journey happening there. The way that I look at it, I often tell people, whatever you are, be who and what you are. And Don Xavier was basically saying that when he said, I am what I am. Whatever you are, you are. 
 
what you are. So whatever you are, be that and be it well. I think back to a channeling of Don Juan about life and even about spirituality, this thing that people call God, the universe. And in a channeling one time, when Don Juan would come, he would often say, hit me with something along the lines of hit me with your best shot. What do you want to ask me? Ask me questions. 
 
you know, attack me with your questions, bring your questions. He would often say, tell me anything, even if it comes to be a lie. And then he would say, and I’ve heard many times, it doesn’t matter because everything in life comes to be a lie. And Don Juan said, life is not like you think you have it figured out. And I recall recently when I interviewed Neil Donald Walsh, 
 
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And when he was on good morning America and he told Matt Lauer, you know, if there was like some, something from God, you know, what, what, some message or something, one line, what would it be? on good morning America, Neil said, God said, you got it all wrong. But I’ve always done that fascinating. Don Juan’s comment, life is not like you have it figured out because we figure it out as a child and we create this identity based upon our 
 
environment as a child. And we think we have life figured out based upon that environment, but that environment is only the context of our individual being. And I look at all these things in life. And I’ve said this before in the podcast, Don Xavier once told me, goes, the day that Jesus, Buddha and Muhammad recognized they knew nothing was when they became Jesus, Buddha and Muhammad. And I think I talked about that in two, two episodes ago. 
 
But we tend to think we know so many things and we have everything figured out. And I’ve come to find that the less that we have figured out, the more that we actually come to know. And we know it through observation, not through internal dialogue or someone telling us. Because when we recognize that we don’t know anything, we stop thinking to a degree. 
 
And we stop thinking to a degree, we start observing and when we start observing, we start seeing and seeing and looking are two very different things. Looking is looking with your 3D eyes at something. Seeing is seeing what is behind the 3D. Anyways, wanted to share that point. It may resonate with some of you in some way. 
 
So I want to talk, I want to share something with you here that I have on my phone. Actually, I screen-shotted when he texted this to me back. I don’t even know what it was. This is back on April the 10th of 2022. He and I were chatting one evening. This is at 12.05 AM. I had asked him about, and I mentioned this in the podcast, but this might even give him more context about how to become a shaman. This is what he typed to me. And I may fumble this a little bit because English is not his first language and he does speak 
 
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really, really good English, but he grew up in Mexico, but he said to no oneself, we have to be with ourself to be with that. We have to be with everything. And that is a Nima, Moondi, mother earth, Pacha mama with all that is and all that is now and present here. 
 
and present with all relatives. Now, when he says relatives, he means every single thing on the planet, every animal, every species of everything, the trees, nature, everything. And I’ve used the word, it’s kind of like communing with and immersing yourself in the communion with life. And he goes on to say, that changes everything and that changes you. 
 
And that is the real encounter when you have the encounter with the all. That’s where I live and I breathe and I blink looking at everything and marveling at the encounters that I’m having. We have to get out of our brain and our 3d. Now what he means by that is I’ve never done an episode on this to any large degree, but he’s often talked about 
 
People think that the mind is the brain and the brain is the mind. Science can’t find the mind. Mind is energy. Mind is consciousness. But when he says get out of the brain, most of us live in the rote, organic, 3D brain. Not recognizing the brain is the medium for the mind. And all wisdom, all intuition, 
 
All knowing, all sensing comes from the mind, not the brain. And he said, that Jimmy is shamanism. Religion is not shamanism. And that’s what I am. And that’s what I come to be. And that’s where we will have our biggest encounter. I love you. Now, what he means is the biggest encounter is the Anima Mundi. 
 
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meaning the merging with every single thing, all of our relatives on the planet. But how do most of us live? We don’t live in that way. All you’ve got to do is look on social media, look at the news, look out on the world. Do you think we would destroy the planet like we do if we had literally merged and had a nema mundi with the planet? Do you think we would do 
 
as a species to animals, what we do to animals. If we had communion and anemomundi with animals, I do want to point out, I’m sure there are probably some vegetarians listening. I recognize that animals can be killed in very humane ways, but I also recognize that animals can be killed in humane ways. And I was talking to Don Hubby at one time about vegetarians and were they vegetarians for physical reasons, biological reasons? 
 
or ethical and moral reasons. And he said, that’s all 3d ego. He said, the thing is, if we don’t eat animals, like cows and many of the things that we eat, he said, we deprived them of their karma because animals also as a species have karma and that is the karma of those animals. So if we don’t eat them, 
 
which we also need for sustenance, we are depriving them of their karma, which pops in the mind. I remember seeing a picture maybe, I don’t know, decade, 15 years ago of polar bears at the North Pole. And there was this polar bear that was emaciated. And because of climate change, the polar bears are having a harder time finding food. And being the animal lover that I am and all kinds of animals, I felt bad about that. 
 
And Don Hubby said to me, he said, don’t feel bad about it. He goes, that polar bear and that species is living their karma just like you and the human species is living your and their karma. So food for thought, no pun intended. I want to just jump around here a bit and share some different stories with you. When we did ceremony one time in Chaco Canyon, 
 
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back in 2005, I believe we have many spiritual tools that we, we have with us when we’re sitting in ceremony all the time, he’s in the center and we are around him in a circle with everyone having a great deal of spiritual tools with us. But I remember this ceremony we did in Chaco Canyon. was a beautiful, beautiful, beautiful sunny, like 70 degree day, no wind. 
 
perfectly calm. And once we got set up in ceremony out of the blue, no pun intended, this major wind comes and blows everything away. And at that time there were probably about 30 of us who worked with him. And I would say each of us had at least 10 spiritual tools, everything from small crystals to different things that I don’t want to share on any of these episodes. 
 
just different spiritual tools. I’ll put it that way. Everything was blown away. I mean, it was literally just like, my God. So we all set about collecting things and finding things. We found every single spiritual item. And this was out of the open type field. We found every single one and not a one of us lost anything. And 
 
The reason that I share that is he didn’t comment on it. And I was very used to at that point seeing very unusual air quote weird things happen. He didn’t comment on it, but I find it interesting that we go from complete imagine the most, a cloud in the sky, serene, beautiful 70 degree day. And out of nowhere, this windstorm comes blows everything away. The windstorm disappears. 
 
We go look for everything and we find everything. Now my conveyance of this story is I still today don’t know why that happened, but my conveyance was the interest and we found every single thing. And some people had little crystals that might’ve been an inch and a half, two inches long, not very big. The ground that we were on was like a sandy ground, could have easily been lost and nothing was lost. 
 
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And I look at that to a large degree as miraculous. How did that happen? So my point of sharing that there are all kinds of miracles and all kinds of things that happen in our life. And no matter how much we try to figure them out, we’re just never going to figure them out. The key is evolving and growing to higher awareness, to understand things, to observe things, to see things. 
 
without trying to figure things out with the analytical mind. I don’t know if I have it in this episode, but I want to talk about the analytical mind for a second. Every single trip we would go on a spiritual journey. But I remember from the early days of working of Don Xavier, he would constantly say, get out of your mind, get out of your mind, get out of your mind, stop thinking. And I remember when we did ceremony at Teotehuyacan in Mexico. 
 
Before we started this ceremony, the day before, he said, if you try to think your way through what we’re going to do, you’re going to find yourself lost. I was talking to my good friend, Gary Zukov yesterday, and I wrote this down to share on the episode because this synopsized what I’ve been told for many, many years. And this will be very powerful for you guys. Gary said, and I wrote it down, quote, 
 
There was a time I realized my intellect no longer served me. There was a time that I realized my intellect no longer served me. And that could even be akin to when I talked about Don Avere saying, stop using the brain because that is intellect, not mind. Intellect. Because why were we capitulating something we remember from a 3D experience? 
 
My whole point here is a comment I shared before from Don Juan. And I do so much content that it runs together sometimes. So I apologize if I’m being repetitive. I know I’ve not said it in this episode, but I believe I did two episodes ago when Don Juan said to me, when you think too much, you make yourself heavy. And when you make yourself heavy, you cannot fly. Now my point to you, 
 
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So many of you are trying to use your intellect to figure things out in life. There’s nothing to figure out. That’s simply your intellectual and analytical mind and your brain-based organic brain trying to make sense of the world because the brain has to make sense of things. And if the brain doesn’t make sense of things, the brain, research demonstrated, will start filling in the blank and start making things up. 
 
I share this for a practical reason with you guys, because many of you have been where I am right now in my life. And I’m at a crossroads in my business determining where do I want to go with it all? Now, what I mean is I’m not talking about shutting down my business or quitting it or any of that, but do I want to continue doing transformation the way that I’m doing it? Do I want to go only spiritual and promote a program that I have called evolve and go from that direction? 
 
Do I need to change the messaging about what I’m doing? And I’ve been in marketing a lot of years. And when I think about it, I can definitely get into my analytical mind and I can get into the logic of why this makes sense and that doesn’t. And a couple of days ago, I said to myself, stop thinking, just stop thinking, stop thinking, start asking, and then start receiving. And what I mean by that is, 
 
I’m asking now in dream time and holding the intention during this, what we call waking time, I’m holding the intention that the awareness that I need will come to me to tell me the direction that I need to go. You know, I’d mentioned on the last episode how we were allowed inside the King’s chamber of the great pyramid or a day out day we a con, et cetera. 
 
It was never Dawn hobby or thinking how is it going to make it happen? Because I remember many times saying, Dawn, how are we going to do that? And he’s like, I don’t know, but he goes, the answers will come. And I share that with you because so many of you try to force things and where I work from predominantly, and I haven’t mastered it, hold the intention and the answers will come. But I, like anybody else can be analytical and I have to remind myself to get out of the analytical mind. 
 
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And I’ve learned how to, to a large degree over the years. But last week I found myself in the trap of, okay, I want to shift things. How do I do it? Point number one, number two, number three, number four, number five. Let me figure this out. And as I said, this week, I’m not there. Where I am this week is, okay, I intend to be aware when the answers come to me about my direction to take with the 
 
podcast and the transformational coaching program and to be to have insiders and other programs that I do. And that’ll come in time. And I’m sure you guys will see that happening, providing I do make some changes and in their future. Another story here. And then this will be more of just a curiosity or an interesting story to you. But one time I had to go speak in New Orleans and I lived in Dallas and I had to go to New Orleans to speak at an event the next day. 
 
So that afternoon I was driving to the airport to catch my flight to New Orleans and I wasn’t feeling so good on way to the airport. And all the years that I worked at Dawnhub Year, really starting in 2012, I started feeling energies. And I’ve mentioned before, so I won’t go into it now, one of the worst days I’ve ever had was December 21st, 2012, the day the Mayan calendar stopped. We’re currently in what’s called a time of no time for 5,000 years right now. 
 
I remember the day the Mayan calendar stopped, I woke up violently ill for no tangible physical, biological reason. And it was all energy. But on this trip to New Orleans, I got to the airport and Don Xavier and my sister and other family members were already here in Sedona. And I couldn’t join them that day or earlier in the trip because I had to go speak in New Orleans, which I had agreed to a half a year prior. So I’m driving to the airport. 
 
And I call my sister and I’m like, Hey, is the dog around? And she’s like, Oh, he’s downstairs or in the sauna or whatever. And I said, I’m starting to feel really bad. And it’s like not a normal bad. It’s a really bad. And I said, I’m feeling so bad. I’m wondering if I should leave the airport and go to the ER. And she goes, well, hang on, let let me ask. And she comes back and she says, he said, 
 
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go ahead and get on the airplane and go to New Orleans. You’ll be fine tomorrow. He said that he’s doing a lot of work on the vortexes in Sedona and you were feeling that energetically. So go ahead and get on your plane, rest today, rest tonight. You’ll be fine tomorrow. Next day I woke up and guess what? I was fine. So I think the point is just to give you more, just a story from time with him and I’ll give you a little more. 
 
but to give you time to give you story, but maybe in some way in your own life, you can apply some of these things and have a little bit of awareness, maybe from what I’m sharing now. I remember the first ceremony we did outside. It was the evening of the night. Princess Diana was killed. And I remember that because we were doing ceremony on some land in Fort Worth, Texas. And we did an all night ceremony. 
 
And the next morning we drove back to Dallas and we stopped at a convenience store to get water and stuff. And the headlines was Diana. It said Diana dead or Diana is dead. But in that event, I remember we were scattered across probably a 20 acre pasture and we each had our own little what’s called a CITIO, meaning your space. And he came and talked to each one of us. And he said to me, he goes, no matter what happens. 
 
once you seal your space and he means energetically, basically you draw a circle energetically and seal it. He goes, once you seal your space, do not leave it no matter what. And I said to him, because this was Fort Worth, Texas out in the middle of nowhere where there’s rattlesnakes. And I said to him, what do I do if a rattlesnake crawls up into my circle? 
 
And he giggled and he said, well, I guess you better make friends with it pretty quickly. So that night I sealed my circle. The rattlesnake never came. But the worst part was I sealed my circle like at 11 o’clock that night and I knew it was going to be told the next morning. And my water, my bottle of water was outside the circle. So I sat there all night long with no water. But anyway, 
 
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You could hear different noises in the background and all that when it got dark and you could hear the crickets and everything. And I heard someone, and I knew who it was, scream really loud. And the next night, I think I was having dinner with him, and I said, I heard this XYZ person, I don’t want to mention her name, doesn’t matter. I heard her scream. That morning she said, I saw a tiger last night. 
 
And I said to her analytical mind, there are no tigers running wild in Fort Worth, Texas out on an empty pasture. And that night at dinner, I said, what happened? Because he’s a sorcerer. can shape shape shift. I said, what happened? He said, I needed to scare her to get her attention. So maybe you guys might find that interesting. I don’t know, but I remember also, let me share something with you. 
 
And I might’ve told this in the podcast before, but when we were in Mexico for a ceremony bag, we went to Chichen Itza in 1996. Peggy and I were sharing a room and literally our room was, I’ve told this before, but I’ll go ahead and finish, was bordering the courtyard of a motel. And the courtyard is full of, you know, banana trees and all this kind of, you know, vegetation. I walked in the room about midnight, Peggy was in bed and I said, Peggy, the wind is calling you. 
 
Now, why I would say that, have no clue. I mean, I have no clue. But I said, Peggy the wind is calling you. She didn’t listen. I said, Peggy the wind is calling you. She didn’t listen. I kid you not, the entire wall of this hotel room, boom, fell out of its frame. And our hotel room was opened up to like a 12 foot wide, nine foot tall hole in our wall. 
 
with our room exposed to the courtyard and anybody who walked by. I mean, the whole wall fell out in a single piece and just hit the ground. And I said, Peggy, I told you the wind was calling you. And she got up and went out and met the wind that ran on the beach for a bit. And she was gone for a good long while. But how do you explain that with your analytical mind? Right. And we try to explain so many things away. 
 
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when it’s all analysis. And that’s why so many of you were stuck is because you’re trying to understand things analytically. So I think a big takeaway for you, and I’ll share another story or two, a big takeaway for you in this episode, the more you try to figure things out, the more lost you’re going to be. Quiet the mind, use your sense and develop your higher awareness. 
 
And you might call that intuition. I call it your sense, but use your intuition, your sense. Now at this particular motel, we did ceremony. And again, we went to Chichen Itza and we did ceremony on the beach one night. It was a beautiful full moon night. And when we started the ceremony, this was in Puerto Morelos, a beautiful place in Mexico. 
 
very remote place back 25 or 28 years ago, very quiet. And we were sitting under the full moon in circle on the beach. And there was just a light cloud cover that night. But in that cloud cover was something that was inexplicable. There was a circle around the moon, but a big circle that had opened up in the cloud cover and you could see the moon with no cloud cover. 
 
Now you could think, well, big deal. mean, the cloud just moved the wind blew the clouds. But here’s the thing. That circle was so perfect and looked as if somebody had taken a razor blade and cut a circle around the moon. I mean, it was sublime. And there was someone there that night when Don Xavier was channeling. Asked Don Juan, what is that? What’s happening? Why is 
 
the sky opening up with like such perfection. And Don once said, because we are radiating all of you with healing. So again, I don’t know. Some of you might be okay. That’s crazy. Do you make that shit up in your mind? Doesn’t matter to me. I’m just sharing with you, but some of you might find value there. So I’ll share one other comment and then I’m not going to say much about it, but it might be food for thought for you guys right now. And I use it. 
 
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to a small degree in the business. So I’m going to start using it on my coaching programs. But so many people are raving about AI, AI this, AI that, AI, AI, AI, AI. I was having dinner with Don Xavier. I really, it would be nice. I wish he’d let me share the recording with you guys because I could just do it as a podcast episode. And in that episode where he talked about humanity is evolving to a point of extinction. We’re evolving to a point and 
 
It’s not that we’re evolving and we are evolving, but we’re evolving also to a point of destruction of the species. And he said, we’re literally like the, like 11 59 PM and there’s not much more time for humanity. And I’ve done an episode before where I talked about how 60 % of animals on the planet are extinct. But what he said that night was this. He said, humans, this is not our first time on the planet. 
 
Humans in this epoch of human history think that humanity is what 10,000 years old or whatever it is because this is our fifth incarnation as a species on this planet and every other incarnation of the species we have destroyed it through technology and we are on that precipice again. What he was saying is that we are 
 
lighting the match, we haven’t dropped it yet, and the ground has got gasoline all over it. We’ve lit the match and we’re holding it in our hand. Boom, about to drop it onto the gasoline in the ground. And that is going to be AI. Takes me back to that quote by Einstein, which I’m going to make all the quote, but he said something along the lines, this is not 100 % accurate, that it’s going to be sad when technology surpasses humanity. 
 
and look at the things that humanity is doing with AI now, some very good things, and some also extraordinarily destructive things. I’m sure the US government is doing it. I’ve understood and done a fair amount of research that China is using it in espionage and doing some very destructive things with AI. But you know what? If you look at the macro picture, it’s just humanity again, not learning their lesson. And again, we’re destroying the species and we’ll be wiped. 
 
Jim Fortin (36:12.23) 
clean from the planet if it happens and we’ll be receded again and we’ll start the whole process over again. Guys, hopefully you found value in this episode. I just paced myself through it and just tossed a lot of this out and hopefully you’ll find something interesting and of nothing else, at least curiously interesting. And maybe some of it will spark something in yourself. The transformational takeaway basically would be along the lines of 
 
There’s more to life than meets the eye and it’s not like you haven’t figured out the secret podcast. It’s going to be very short, but what I’m going to do is I found those notes the night Don Xavier killed me in a dream. I found my notes at night and I’m going to read them to you because they’re more in depth. I’m going to read them to you on the secret podcast. So for those of you that remember a BDHI, the B2HAV insiders, and you have access to the secret podcast, check this out over there. 
 
For those of you that are actually only here on the podcast, remember, there’s more to life than meets the eye, and life is not like you have it figured out. Thanks for listening, and I’ll catch you over on the Secret Podcast or on another episode. Bye-bye. 
 
 

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Jim is an international subconscious self-transformation and high performance expert with over two decades of expertise in brain based transformation and high performance. Using a brain based approach coupled with transformational psychology and ancient wisdom Jim has created programs that create long-term core-level life transformation in his students.

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