The Jim Fortin Podcast
EPISODE 311: “Stop Trying To Manifest Backwards”
March 13, 2024
In this episode, we dive into a compelling exploration of how we often attempt to manifest our desires and goals in reverse, leading to frustration and lack of progress. I share insights into the common struggles many face when trying to manifest prosperity, emphasizing that the issue often lies not in the lack of effort but in the approach. We explore how societal narratives, family legacies, and personal belief systems can create a cycle of scarcity and hinder our manifesting potential.
The key to unlocking our manifesting abilities lies in shifting our focus from external actions to internal states. This episode challenges you to examine your underlying beliefs about abundance and reassess where your focus lies. Are you caught up in the hustle of doing, or are you cultivating a state of being that aligns with the abundance you seek? By delving into our own consciousness and aligning our thoughts with our desired outcomes, we can begin to manifest from a place of power and possibility.
The conversation shifts to understanding that manifestation is less about doing and more about being. By changing our mindset from one of lack to one of possibility, we unlock our true potential to attract abundance. This shift involves recognizing that our thoughts about money, success, and what we believe we can achieve are foundational to manifesting the life we desire.
Listen, apply, enjoy.
Transformational Takeaway
Trust the universe, manifest abundance effortlessly through positive intentions and gratitude, and believe in your creative power for the prosperity you deserve.
Full Episode Transcript
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You're listening to the Transform your Life from the Inside Out podcast. This episode is titled Stop Trying to Manifest Backwards. What does that mean? You know, in this day and age and especially in the last year or so it's 2024 right now. I don't know what happened, but you just see an explosion or at least I do because of the algorithms and explosion of people on Instagram, talking about their programs and making money and manifestation and creation and abundance and all these kinds of things. And candidly, you yourself want to create manifest more in your life or you wouldn't be listening to the podcast. No one listens to a podcast for no reason you're here because you want to create something. But what you want to ask yourself is have I been creating the amount of abundance and wealth and prosperity in my life that I want to. Well, most people actually will listen to a lot of, you know, audios and podcasts and watch videos. But they still struggle with abundance. Why? The reason why is that most of us are trying to manifest backwards, which is exactly what we're going to talk about in this episode and how to actually turn that to forward frontward the right way to manifest. Keep listening.
Hi, I'm Jim Fortin, and you're about to start Transforming your Life from the Inside Out with this podcast. I'm widely considered the leader in Subconscious Transformation, and I've coached super achievers all around the world for over 25 years. Here you're going to find no rah-rah motivation and no hype because this podcast is a combination of Brain Science, Transformational Psychology, and Ancient Wisdom all rolled into one to take your life to levels you've never thought possible. If you're wanting a lot more in life to feel better, to heal, to have peace of mind, to feel powerful and alive, and to bring more abundance and prosperity into your life, then this podcast is for you because you're going to start learning how to master your mind and evolve your consciousness. And when you do that, anything you want then becomes possible for you. I'm glad you're here.
You know, when I see people struggling with money, I can relate. At this point in my life, I'm very, very, very fortunate and that I have the financial wherewithal that I basically can do whatever I want to do. And I'm kind of giggling and that's unconscious. And I think it's because I'm laughing at myself to some degree. Man, oh man, I grew up poor. I mean, we didn't have money. And I think back I've been doing a lot of mental recapitulation. And I think back to growing up and things that I heard in the household all the time. I mean, we, my dad was a mechanic and a farmer. I used to work in the fields as a kid, we just did not have money. And so, when it comes to struggling with money, I literally, I could say I was an expert on struggling. And I used to read a lot of books and do a lot of different things and I just could never stop the struggle when it comes to money. And you know, many people that are metaphysical listen to the podcast and they will say things like, you know, money is energy and money is abundance and, you know, money is all these kinds of things. And they either and they get into the analytical aspect and part of it, but they're still not manifesting.
You know when I look out into the world. Money really is a pretty easy thing to make. I know I had mentioned quite some time ago. I don't know how many episodes you go. I was talking to a friend of mine and he was in his fifties at that point, and I was in my thirties. And he said, Jim, if you got money problems, you got no problems. And I couldn't, I mean, this is 1992 when he told me this, as I think back to when he did. And I thought, what do you mean I ain't got no problems and of course I can speak proper grammar and English and all that. I just, I'm doing it for a fact, but I'm like, yeah, I got money problems. I can't pay my rent. I got a car payment due and my visa bills due. I got a student loan. I'm waiting tables on the weekends. I mean, I just don't have the kind of money that I want to make. Hell yeah. I have a money problem. Maybe you can relate to that. And what he had me recognized over the years is that there's not a money problem in the world. There is a you problem. Meaning I am the one that's cutting myself off from prosperity and abundance. Money, ponder this, Money doesn't cut itself off for me in the past meaning you. I was the one who cut myself all from money.
In any economy, and I'm looking around right now in 2023 and talking to a lot of students from all different walks of life and industries. The economy is pretty wonky right now, even though the stock market's doing well, inflation is doing, it's not where it needs to be yet in the United States, but it's doing pretty well. I think we're at like 3%. And I'm watching a lot of the investment markets and gold markets and gold is shot up to like 2150 announced right now it's insane. The amount and gold shoot up when people are uncertain about the economy. And the entire economy is driven by emotions. And so, I look at okay, because of me going up the economy going down. In a good economy a lot of people make money about a bad economy a lot of people don't make money. And I recognized by working with top producers over the years. That even in bad economies. Top producers still make a lot of money. And even in the world right now, whatever's happening in the economy or your personal economy or your personal world or your industry. There are people in your world around you in the world in the country. And people in your industry making money.
And if you're not making the kind of money you want to make, it's not because of the economy. It's not because of something external. It's because of you. Then again, as I was saying earlier, many of us are metaphysicians, we're spiritual and we're following all kinds of spiritual teachings and we're wondering, well, how come I'm not making the kind of money that I want to make in life? Right now, you can hop on YouTube, you can go to Instagram, you can go anywhere you want. And you're going to be inundated and flooded with people talking and speakers and trainers and programs and social media personalities. Talking about manifestation, manifestation, manifestation, manifestation. I even know people who teach it for a living. But the reality is many times people are teaching from their current level of understanding or their model of reality. And they're not digging into the deeper issues around the deeper psychological issues around manifestation.
So, let's start here and we'll go to a couple of places. And I know I do recommend you go back to episode number nine. And by the way, because it's about manifestation and how most people are actually using the law of attraction to repel money. But I do suggest if you're new to the podcast, go back to episode number one and start there. Many people erroneously believe that. Oh, because they're older episodes, the value's not there anymore that's not true at all. Tremendous amount of value in the early episodes. And they all kind of build on themselves or add to each other. So, go back to the very beginning. But I want you, I request to notice this. Everything, every single thing in your life is a result of cause. Cause and effect some way somehow you have caused what's going on in your life right now. Specifically, your consciousness has caused your circumstances right now. If you have money in your life, you have caused that. If you don't have the money you want in your life, you have also caused that. Think about it. Ponder that. Everything you have is because you caused it. Everything you don't have is because you have caused that.
Now I sat in episode number nine and we go from thoughts to feelings to vibration the frequency. And it's all consciousness. So, we create through our consciousness and I want to hop around here a little bit. But we want to create all different kinds of things in life. I mean, some people look at me, they want to manifest money. So, for example, one of my brothers no longer on the planet, he wanted to manifest money, but he was an artist and he wanted to manifest money, but he just wanted the manifest a little bit, a little bit to pay his bills. What he really wanted to manifest even more of constantly was creativity. There are many. And just being truthful. I've got another brother who I just found out last week. I didn't just find out, find out I had another brother, but I found out last week. That he is in he's in jail for fentanyl. So, he was selling of all things. And I hadn't talked to him in a lot of years where, so, I mean, I can't even relate. It's so far out of my reality. But people do that because they're trying to get drugs to other people, but specifically in most often, they’re wanting to manifest more money.
We are all wanting to manifest things. We're wanting to manifest how often love and money and relationships and all these kinds of things. The point right now in this episode is to recognize we are all born wanting to manifest, but we're all also born creators ponder that. You want to manifest. As I said earlier, you're listening to the podcast because you want to manifest something. But you're the creator doing the manifestation. And then if you're not getting the manifestation that you want, what you have to look at is, well, what is it in me? What is it about me? That's not creating what I want in life. Okay. I want to drop a truth bomb for you right here. Now I talked about all these courses that are that people are doing and all the videos, and there are a bazillion videos on YouTube about money and manifestation and all those kinds of things. And if you look at YouTube, a lot of the titles are do this for 72 hours, do that, do this, say this, go here, all these kinds of things, but they all revolve around taking action and doing something. And then you'll live in here a lot of professional speakers and personality say things. You got to work until your eyeballs bleed. You got to hustle. You got to take massive action. All these things are doing.
But I want to, I want to share something here that'll be a game changer once you get your mind around it. All these people talking about prosperity and manifestation most often make their money by talking to you about prosperity and manifestation. So, you know, just recognize that. But here's what I want to say. Manifestation and creation are not something initially that you do. It is something that you are. Manifestation is not something that you do. But it is something that you are, and what comes to mind is the power of being, and I've talked a lot about that over the years. But look at Gandhi. Look at his doing or mother Teresa, look at her, do-ING. That's important to observe first. They're do-ing. They're doing creates outcomes. However, they had to be the kind of person inside to do the doing. Now. It's not just being in terms of their heart held energy or their desire to make the world a better place. It's where their consciousness is. They are more than anything else. Please recognize because you are to Gandhi, Mother, Teresa, Steve Jobs. What's that guy's name? Elon Musk is his name. I just let my net, my mind for a moment. They are all using their power to create and manifest. They are all being the kind of person who manifests something and create something. Being is consciousness. Consciousness is thought.
So, the question is, what is your thoughts? What are not, is what are your thoughts about money? And you probably heard me say this before. If you want to know your thoughts about money, it's pretty simple because many of you will scratch your heads and go, well, Jim, I don't know. What my thoughts are about money. Well, you don't even have to think about it. Look at your bank account that will tell you your thoughts about money. Okay, so right then and there, or right there, if you look at that, you'll have an idea of what you're holding subconsciously. And what you're holding in your consciousness about money. Again, most of your working backwards, we'll get there in just to bet. Now. Most of us also don't manifest because we're taught all kinds of things. Like money's the root of all evil. Rich people are jerks. All these kinds of things that we're taught that are passed down through generations. You know, I read an article this morning on, I think it was in a Fortune magazine. And I have said this for a long time and especially in my BE DO HAVE series. That I see people today in 2024 living with a limitation to their grandparents. Many people and especially that are a little older that their parents were alive during the great depression. What this article was saying, and I've said it for 20 years. As many people that have money challenges today, learn from their grandparents who taught their parents, who taught them. So, you think about that?
What money challenges are you having today and where are you holding your thinking? Which is your consciousness? Because chances are that came from your parents and that came from their parents. And that came from the great depression. When people literally had a very stoic attitude about money and they were very stoic about it. But there was so little money. How did that shape their consciousness, which shaped your parents, which shaped your thinking about consciousness? So, I talk about manifesting. Look at your own life, you are born creating. Ponder this for a moment. You were born creating, you were created, think about that, but then once you were created, and then you came out of the womb, you were creating from that point, you were creating love, you were creating joy, you were creating value for people. You're creating caretakers. You're creating all these things from people, even as a one-hour old infant. Not even recognizing that you're already manifesting and creating something. The second you pop out of the womb, even in the womb, this lifetime, I've not been pregnant. And I don't plan to be this lifetime, but I'm sure I've been in a different lifetime. Look at what you're even creating while you're in the latter stages, in the womb, the pain, the joy, the expectation, whatever it might be as well. Notice more than anything. Creating creating, creating.
Many years ago, it was about 10 years ago, maybe 15 years ago when the Secret came out. I've never watched the DVD or listened to any of that because I know what's in it. Even in my own book, I've got another book coming out in the next month or so. Called the subconscious solution. But in the first book I wrote, which is not available anymore. In there I talk about the law of attraction and that was back in 1998 or so. And then in 2006 or seven, the Secret came out. Anyway, this lady was talking about the law of attraction on social media. And she said that law of attraction thing, it just doesn't work for me, I guess it works for everyone else, but it doesn't work for me. And what she was doing is doing a task. If you're doing things to make money that's great. That's fine seriously. But what you want to look at who or what is the person doing the doing. I want to keep this episode really simple, even though I've jumped around the whole lot. Is, as I said earlier, you're listening because you want something in your life. But what you have to look at is it, is you not the behavior, not the doing it is you that is wanting and creating and not creating. But here's a big question for you, and this is kind of the, the meat and potatoes in the entire episode.
Are you wanting more abundance from lack or from possibility? Wanting money from lack is saying. I don't have, I don't have, I need, like I did for decades. I need to pay my visa bill. I need to pay my car payment. I need to pay my rent. I need to pay child support. I need to pay student loans. I need to pay for a date. I need to pay hell, I don't know my new sex toys. I don't know what you're wanting money for, but the reality is. If you're wanting money to buy something because you can't buy it because you don't have the money. You are wanting from lack, if you're wanting from lack. Look at where your consciousness and your attention and your energy are, which is why you continue to attract more lack, which is why you continue to not get the abundance that you want. So, one thing from possibility is not really wanting. It's more intending than anything else.
For example. I do not say at this point in my life, I want X, Y, Z amount of money. I want X, Y, Z dollars, et cetera. What I focus on and what I say directly is I intend to create blank. And for you that could be. You could intend to create more abundance and it's as simple tweaking of your languaging and the way that you're approaching this. But intending something is working from possibility. Wanting something is working from lack. If you're wanting and thank you, can't have that is lack. So, intending could be, let's look at this, for example, let's say you want a new house. And you could be working from, I want a new house. I want a new house. I want a new house. I want a new house. You're telling the universe you don't have and tending is which by the way is how I found my last house. And now I've done a lot of things in my life. And intending is simply fixing them in your mind and knowing it's going to happen without evidence, but intending is the most abundant fabric intention is the most abundant fabric in the universe. And when we say something like I intend to attract 700 bucks. I intend to attract $1 million this year by providing X, Y, Z service.
Even in Think and Grow Rich, which I read back in the 1990s. Napoleon Hill talks about that in the book is that you're. And he says in a different way, but it's the same thing. You're going to exchange. Remember I talked about cause and effect earlier, you're going to exchange something in your life for the intended outcome that you want. I'm going to exchange my service, which is a doing. For the intended outcome, but most of us simply what we do is we want, but we're not intending the outcome because we're so immersed. And so, so captured in the wanting and wanting and wanting and wanting. And that comes back to we're being. One of my coaches said many years ago, his name is Barry. He was a Transformational Coach. He said, Jim everything that you do in life is only as effective as the being, doing the doing. Everything you're doing in life is only as effective as the being, doing the doing.
Here's a big takeaway. Your manifestation and your result of your manifestation is only as effective as you doing the manifestation work, what effective means is again, Your consciousness. Is your consciousness working from resignation and wanting, or is your consciousness operating from intending? So, if you're wanting and wanting and wanting, that is the way that you're being, that's what you're communicating to the universe. Is that you don't have, and universe says, okay, Mr. Smith, Mrs. Smith, you don't have, I will make sure that you have, you know, more of what you don't have, because that's where you are holding your, your consciousness. Let me say this in another way. The way that I want to say it is, are you broke in your mind? If you're broke in your mind and you're trying to do all these manifestation techniques and all the doing. Then you're trying to manifest from, I'm going to just use this word, broken consciousness, meaning the it's not broken because it's getting you an outcome. All consciousness just gets an outcome. But it's broken based upon the outcomes that you want to create.
So that's why I'm asking you a little earlier. I asked you twice. Are you working from unless you’re in a different way, your past history and resignation and wanting, or are you asking from possibility knowing that you can create, because you are a born creator, you can create anything that you want in life? Now the whole podcast is about working backwards. That's how I worked backwards for 30 years is wanting and wanting and wanting, but wanting from lack, when you're wanting from lack, you are working backwards when you are intending from possibility subtle difference, but very powerful energetically. When you were intending from possibility. That is when you attract very easily.
Okay. I want to segue from the episode for just one moment. And I want to ask you, where were you most stuck in 2023? What things held you back the most? When I ask people, you know, why they're not getting what they want in life, people often say, well, I was stuck with X, Y, Z, or, and this may resonate with you, I feel stuck. If you're feeling stuck, one question I want you to ask yourself is, what is it costing me? What is it costing me to not resolve this and to battle being stuck? And when you add that up, whether it's money and especially in business, but in your health and your relationships, when you add that up, it's extremely costly to be stuck in life.
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Who do you have to be so you can do so you can have, but I'm talking, you know, what does it mean to be? And then what is that power associated with that? When you understand that you automatically get unstuck in life. This program never offered it before to you guys. We're offering it now. I don't think we've offered it to the podcast in an ad Maybe we have, maybe we have, I don't remember anyway. It doesn't matter because we haven't offered it a lot of, we have, but we're offering to get unstuck challenge again. It's only $97. Thousands of people have been through it and they rave about the results they're getting. And I know that you will do the same thing. So again, ponder the question. What does it cost me? What am I giving up? What peace of mind? What happiness? What money? What relationships am I giving up in life because I am stuck in my own crap. Now, as you're thinking about that, click the link, go to tcp.jimfortin com/unstuck again, and we'll drop the link in the show notes, tcp.jimfortincom/unstuck. Download the program you get started right away and your life will start changing dramatically. When you apply what you're learning in that program, your life will start changing in very dramatic ways, very, very quickly. And as a matter of fact, in the next nine days. Okay, back to the episode.
Don Xavier. My brother-in-law many years ago sent me a writing. And he sends it in the email. He actually, even the title of the email was: Please get it. And the whole content was about getting it. But this is what he said to me. He goes to 3D world that you learn to grow up in. Meaning if you want to create something, then you've got to do it to make it happen. That world energetically and in physics has collapsed. We no longer live in a 3d world, even though we think we do. We live in e D 5world. Higher levels of consciousness. 3d is about 5D is about consciousness. And he said to me, this may be a little hard for you to believe he said stop all of the doing, but we've been conditioned to think we have to do and do and do and do when do. Stop doing all the doing and simply stop with an open heart and hold the intention. That we know we are a creator and we are creating it because again, what many people are doing listing right now, look at your own life. None ones, you know, in your head, but you. Is what's your money situation? But even before that, what are your thoughts about.
In the United States is chaos is numbing. It's just, which is why I don't watch the news. You see all this political rhetoric about money and the economy and this and that and the border. And gold and silver and soft landing and hard landing and medium landing. And are we going to have a recession? Are we not going to have a recession? I mean, it's just all around us and its toxicity all the way around us for our consciousness when it comes to abundance and prosperity. I literally will just scan the news once a week. It’s basically the same old shit each and every week. But I don't dive into it. And I find that I even have a much better state of mind and consciousness when I don't pay attention to the human nonsense going on in the world.
So, let me give you a few things here that you can work on as takeaways for you in this episode. Bottom line is money is not about doing things. Okay. Because a lot of people who don't have money, do a lot of things to make money and notice they still don't have money. Money is about consciousness. If you've ever noticed, as I've said before, those that have the least amount of money are the ones who want the most amount of money, but they generally have the least amount of money. Okay. So, doing is about, I don't know. I mean, I can't, I'm only speculating about 10% of the equation. And we generally only do, but we don't do the other 90%, which is holding our consciousness because we're creators and the right place, 90% of the heavy lifting and the work is done by the universe and consciousness not by the 10% of us doing. So, a couple of tips here that I learned the hard way. And basically, they kicked me in the ass over the years. Is let go of wanting.
I mean, we want all these things and the way that we do that is we'd be grateful for what we have right now. Now, when I say, let go of wanting, if you're a hungry, that's a whole different ball of wax. You want to eat.I would assume that most people listening to the podcast are not going to miss their next meal. I'm speaking to the demographic here who listen, and most of you already have things. You've got shelter, you got food. You have. You know, all the basic necessities in life. But look at what you want. Are you wanting from needing? Are you wanting from Lack? Or are you wanting from intention and creation and possibility? So that's one thing and the way to do that, that I discovered, and you hear it all the time. Gratitude. Very early on about a year and a half, two years ago, I created an episode called having something like having a raditude radical gratitude.
This is why they say that gratitude is the key to everything you want in life. I know hard to believe, but it is the truth. And for most of us, it's very hard. Let me ask you a question, which is one of the transformational takeaways. Answer honestly, to yourself. Explore your answer here. What if you woke up today with everything you wish you were grateful for yesterday? Think about that. What if you woke up today with everything you were grateful for yesterday? And then ask yourself, was that grateful for my body, my heart, my lungs, my ability, my money, my home, my car, my kids, my opportunity, my job, my shelter. Look at all the things, because we tend to be very generic and say, oh, well, yeah, I'm, I'm grateful. But think about the depth of that. Are you truly grateful for all the things that you have in your life? I'm going to be a hundred percent transparent.
2023 was a challenging year and a lot of ways for me. And I remember talking to my brother-in-law Don Xavier in 2020. And I've said this on the podcast before, and he said, you know, you are grateful for the amount of abundance you have in your life. But what you're not grateful for is how easily that abundance comes to you. And I can't tell you. How easily 2020 2021, 2022 came to me. Shockingly easy people that I know my friends are like, Jim, how do you do it? I mean, we don't understand how do you have the kind of numbers that you have? How do you generate the kind of revenue that you have? How, how, how do you do this? It just happened. And, you know, honestly, thinking back, even though I expanded my level of gratitude for how easy things came. I didn't embrace it fully or understand it fully. In 2023, because my energy has been so discombobulated because of a home situation. As a matter of fact, right now, I live in a home I'm building was supposed to be done two and a half years ago we're on 29 months.
As I mentioned before. I have eight workers sewing into a wall in my kitchen right now. It's discombobulated my energy. And so, because it's discombobulated my energy, my peace, and my emotional state, because I live in it. It's affected my projection and what I manifest and what I create in life now, right now, manifestations become a lot more intentional. Why? Because in the past I just had to show up. Now I've got to recognize. Jim you've got to be more intentional about your manifestation. So, for you, are you intentional about your manifestation? And are you grateful for what you do manifest? So, as I mentioned earlier, it’s about, not about wanting, not about desperation, not about needing stop that that is what blocks that's working backwards. That's what stops your med of a station? It's about having, and for me, I'll tell you where I work from is, I work from soul. Meaning my soul really doesn't care where I live or what money I have in the bank or any of that? My soul is on the planet to have an experience of evolution and service. And when I focus on that, I'm focusing also on my highest values. Things work very easily and very well for me.
Now, again, I don't know anybody that's listening would say, yeah, Jim, I want to live in construction for eight months and I have people in my house all day long. And I have sold us to my house. I mean, that's what I'm living in, but I also have to look at how I manifested this because we're manifestors and how I created it. So today where I want to go. Your takeaway is this your two big ones? Am I asked you earlier are you grateful? And have you been grateful for EV have you been grateful today? Or did you wake up with gratitude today for everything that you had yesterday. So, think about that. Are you grateful for everything you have today? And I mean, in depth and appreciative gratitude for that? And then finally fourth time if you're trying to manifest out a, wanting out a need out of desperation. It's going to be challenging. Why? Because that is your thought, which determines your, your vibration, which determines your frequency.
We go from, actually we go from thought to feeling the vibration, the frequency. And if you're in the thoughts of lack, or desperation or wanting or neediness, you're simply attracting more back to you. And then what I want to share, what I'm sharing with you now is one of the hardest lessons I ever had to learn. And I would say that it, for me, it borders on spiritual maturity. And I'm just going to tell you how I phrased it to myself years ago. Stepping into and trusting the universe, trusting consciousness and trusting energy to manifest and create through me. Not for me through me. And I know, and I've always known a well for the last 20 years. When I hold my intention in the right place I intend to serve, I intend to manifest. I intend to attract X, Y, Z. That's when I do it. Okay, I've left you with a lot of food for thought. Hopefully you can see some of yourself in here. And see ways that you can better correct or manage your behavior to create the manifestation that you want in your life and the abundance you want in your life. By manifesting in a way that's not backwards, but in a way, they get you what you want in life. Thanks for listening and I'll catch you over on another episode. Bye-bye.
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Jim Fortin
Jim is an international subconscious self-transformation and high performance expert with over two decades of expertise in brain based transformation and high performance. Using a brain based approach coupled with transformational psychology and ancient wisdom Jim has created programs that create long-term core-level life transformation in his students.