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You're listening to the Transform your Life from the Inside Out podcast. This episode is titled Gary Zukav: Deep Dive #1 What I'm going to do is I'm going to do a series. Obviously, you already know that with Gary Zukav but I know that many times that when we hear something. When we hear it a different way, what's taken apart for us. We can assimilate better. We can assimilate a deeper, we can get more value from it. So obviously you may have already listened to the first episode of Gary. Well, the, the episode I just did of Gary. And when I say, obviously we talked about a lot of things. What I want to do in this particular episode is take apart some things that he said. And perhaps maybe at a little more depth to it in a way that makes sense to you. So, take notes, enjoy and see how this applies to your life. Keep listening.

Hi, I'm Jim Fortin, and you're about to start Transforming your Life from the Inside Out with this podcast. I'm widely considered the leader in Subconscious Transformation, and I've coached super achievers all around the world for over 25 years. Here you're going to find no rah-rah motivation and no hype because this podcast is a combination of Brain Science, Transformational Psychology, and Ancient Wisdom all rolled into one to take your life to levels you've never thought possible. If you're wanting a lot more in life to feel better, to heal, to have peace of mind, to feel powerful and alive, and to bring more abundance and prosperity into your life, then this podcast is for you because you're going to start learning how to master your mind and evolve your consciousness. And when you do that, anything you want then becomes possible for you. I'm glad you're here.

Okay. So, the episode of Gary Zukav recently. As I mentioned in the introduction. Gary goes pretty deep. And he talks about things that a lot of people have a hard time getting their mind around. What I'm going to say. I say an all humbleness and with, I have extreme reverence for Gary and respect for Gary, and a lot of love for Gary. An amazing, amazing being. I've worked with a shaman for 27 years, as you probably already know a real Shaman. And when I said no disrespect intended to Gary. Everything that he and I talked about. I'm it's been my reality. It's been my life. It's been my world for decades. I might just use different language, different words, different explanations. But I'm going to use this word. I and the word are no ed. I know it. At a soulful level. And that's one of the reasons I resonate so deeply and so profoundly with Gary is I feel like we're speaking the same language. But maybe our dialect is a little bit different. Even in the personal conversation that I was having with him one time. I said, Gary, we're saying the same thing, but in different ways, and he said, yeah, we've just learned different semantics, different context. So, what I want to do, and these episodes I'm going to do at least four episodes with Gary. And then what I want to do is take apart those four episodes and just give you even more food for thought. Anytime, we're listening to someone. I know that we can get so caught up in what we're listening to. That when we go back and we listen again, or we hear it in a different way. Or like, whoa, I missed that. And I missed that and I missed that. I missed all these things while I was listening to XYZ person speak.

Not related to taking apart any of this episode and sharing things. And when I say take a part, I just want to, I want to talk about some of the things that he said in this particular episode. But did you notice. The humbleness in his voice. Gary carries this profound, profound humbleness with him. And my intention, I'm using the word, hoping, just flippantly and I'm playing. But maybe at some point in my life, Gary's 81. I am 51 on one of my 59. So, he's, you know, 20 years ahead of me and hopefully at some point I can carry that same kind of profoundness and that solemnity in me and then deliver that to people as well.

Now in the episode you heard us talking about his wife, Linda. His partner. I'm sorry I don't, I've told him that I've heard, heard him refer to her as his wife, but as spiritual partner, Linda Francis. And he said verbatim, her soul went home. And then he said, the pain was great. And I decided not to squander. Meaning squander the pain and the experience. I know that everything that happens. Happens for my benefit and for my growth. Now I want to comment on this. I remember Don Xavier calling me. I lived in Atlanta, Georgia at that time. And it was 1996. And he called me and we were just having a casual brother-in-law conversation. But when he would call me, he would always air quote, share/teach.

And he said to me, and I've said it on the podcast before. He said to me, every single thing. That happens to you in your life. No matter whether you think it's bad. No matter whether you think it's good. It's a blessing. And you know, many years ago, I could look at that. I'm like, are you kidding me? I mean X, Y, Z happened, and this happened and that happened and that, you know, I could point at things a mile long. And I didn't see them as blessings. I saw them as a pain in the ass to be quite honest. And what I've learned over the years is that every single thing that happens to me. Things that happened that I like, and I enjoy. They're obviously a blessing. But things that happened to me happened in my life that I do not like there are also a blessing.

And Don Xavier said to me, everything that happens to me is a blessing so that I may grow and evolve spiritually. And then his mentor said something and his mentor was also a, Shaman, a sorcerer. Nagasu, his mentor has said something like the average man sees life as a curse. The spiritual warrior sees everything as a blessing. So, a question for you. Do you see everything as a blessing? You know, I've mentioned a few times sharing the podcast and I've talked about it in my groups. I live in Sedona, Arizona, and I'm building a home that was supposed to be done literally almost two years ago. And I had to move in nine months ago and it was finished at least structurally and a lot of things weren't finished. The contractor may made excuses left and right. I found that it screwed other people over. It's been pretty much a fiasco. Let me just put it that way by anybody's measure. It's been a fiasco. I had people making extreme noise in my house today. Now I don't know about you, but my house is my sanctuary. It's my respite. It's my sacred space. And for nine months and for a year prior waiting for the contractor to finish, because he was already a year over contract timing at that point. I lived out of boxes in my last house, waiting for him to finish this house. And finally, I had to say whether or not you like it, I'm moving in because I had nowhere to go in Sedona.

It's a small town. I was going to have to literally move to Phoenix. And be two hours away from my home. And I'm like, now I'm moving in. And there were so many things that were not done. And he said to me, oh, within a month, I'll have your house ready. It'll look amazing. Nine months later, we're still dealing with it. And dream time a couple of nights ago, I woke up. And the epiphany and dream time between waking up and being alert for a few minutes and then falling back asleep was the amount of stress. That's been brought into my life as a result of having people in my house every single day. My sanctuary, my home, my sacred space. So, I look at this and candidly I'm like, I'm just going to be candid. I'm like, this is really fucked up. I mean, this guy is the biggest clown, shyster pain in the ass and the world.

What I had to do when I was already pretty decent at it, but what I had to do. Am I had to surrender even more? Do I still have these things happening in my life? Absolutely. Will there be a resolution at some point, of course, their will? Well, you know, what will that date be? I don't know. My point is it devastated so much of the equilibrium in my life, my business, my life, my personal relationship. It decimated so much of my life because it affected my energetic flow. My energetic continuity. That I had to reevaluate my entire life. And it took me to a point where I just said, okay, it is what it is. And whatever's going to happen is going to happen. And I know that in my heart, I know that on my soul, and even though it's been very challenging. I also look at it as a simultaneous blessing. So, the question for you right now is what things happen in your life that you see them as a curse. What blessing can you find. What hidden blessing can you find in those things? Because that is the beginning of your spiritual learning in that part of your life. And it may be learning to let go of fear, ego, greed, shame, money, business. Even your personal relationships and I don't know what it would be for you, but what I'm telling you, and I can say with certainty, everything that happens to you is a blessing in the skies. Now that. The skies might look like a shit sandwich, but it's also a blessing.

You know, I think back to the stroke and heart failure that I had in 2020. Many people would say, oh, that's really, really bad. That happened. And I mentioned that on the podcast before. It was challenging going through both a stroke, a hemorrhagic stroke and heart failure and a one-year period going through fricking both. Most people never go through either. I went through both I'm healthy today. And I'm telling you right now, I wouldn't trade those experiences for Because Why wouldn't be where I am today. I wouldn't have learned, I wouldn't have seen, I wouldn't have grown into the person that I am today. Had those experiences. Not happen to me. So, what shitty things have happened in your life? That you can reframe and you can look at it and say, oh, okay. I can see the blessing here.

Okay, next one. Gary said. One day. He goes, I woke up and suddenly I knew I was in earth school. And by the way, I didn't take copious notes at all. When he and I were talking, I wanted to be present. But I went back and I listened to the entire episode and I pulled things out of it. And he said, I woke up and suddenly I knew I was an earth school. And then he went on to say, I didn't see how asleep the world is until I woke up in it.

Truth be told at a lot of respect and a lot of compassion. Even a lot of people who listened to the podcast. Even though they might even claim to be spiritualist. There was sleep and so many ways. And I'm not saying that in an arrogant way, pointing a finger like, oh, you're asleep and I'm not. Because what I've also learned is the more that you come to know the less, you know, and you've got to wake up even more to assimilate more knowing and to become a person, a person of spiritual wisdom in your life. Not that will never achieve that in a single lifetime. Of course.

But, you know, he mentioned earth school. And I, you know, many of us say that and I've said it for so many years. And I, for me, I know that after 2020. And years prior working of Don Xavier. But in 2020, I mean, I knew that everything that was happening was a lesson so that I may grow and evolve. But what I say, I say it in a different way. You may have heard me say this before is that I am a spiritual cosmologist. Many of us think that we are spiritual beings. When I tell people that you were somewhere before you incarnated. And that means you're a cosmologist because you travel. Now that might be alien to some of you guys, but you do travel between planetary systems. And even if you keep reincarnating in a planetary system like earth, then you may actually incarnate here and incarnate and incarnate and incarnate and learn lessons. And then leave this planetary system and go to a different planetary system and incarnate there and incarnate and incarnated and incarnate. And then come back to this system.

Something I'll talk about in the moment. Is that you are eternal. You have soulfully existed since the beginning of creation. And you will soulfully exist until the end of creation. You're currently you right now in this moment, if you weren't, you wouldn't be listening to this episode. But you're currently in earth school and you are a, what I call a cosmic being. You're not a human being. Many people will say, oh, I'm not first a human being. I'm a spiritual being. And I've said before, that's dogma. Because many people take spirituality and turned it into our religion. So, I say you're not just a human being. You're not just the spiritual being, you are a cosmic being. And that is a being that travels through eternity from lifetime to lifetime from experience to experience.

And he said, most people miss that, that we're an earth school. And we don't even think that way. Now you may be thinking that way in fairness to you. But look out in the world. Look out in the world and look at how trapped humanity is collectively. I'm requesting that you both looks. And you see. Looking is looking at it physically and actually just observing it physically. Seeing as looking behind the looking and seeing what's really going on. So, looking would be looking into the world and seeing all of the greed. All of the money struggles and the battles and people killing people over money. And real estate and politics and fear and the elections and people getting into war and then people getting into personal identification of who's judging me. And I hope they, they don't think bad things about me and oh, no. I must not be good enough. And people are saying bad things about me and they don't like me and it's all nonsense. It's all a human Nico game. And if you look out into the world and you see the fear and the greed and the money and the egoism and the politics and the war. That's looking that's looking at the world. But seeing the world is seeing what's causing that.

And the underlying factor that's causing that is a separation from soulful awareness. It is fear-based, it is ego based and it's all nonsense. And it's the games that humans get trapped in. So, I'm asking you and do not be hard on yourself. Do not judge yourself at all. Simply observe. Am I getting into all of that? And the biggest one I would ask you right now is how much fear did you get into. And I've started a lot of times on this podcast is that people tend to get into a lot of fear and they live their lives in fear, but fear is not soulful. Its ego based. Its human identity based as Gary would say. The words he uses is personality based. Meaning human personality, ego based.

But the question is, and something Don Xavier would say, and he's used use this word for a lot of years. How much fear. How much anger. How much ego. How much shame. How much hate do you bathe yourself in. Food for thought. And I do want to share with you that I recognize it's very easy to fall into that trap. I mean, hell, we're living on a planet that's just full of that everywhere and we're taught it from the time we pop out of the womb. When you pop out of the womb, you're basically. Not basically, that's not the right choice of words. You are in effect, a video camera and an audio recorder and your subconscious mind, your consciousness is recording every bit of human experience you're having.

So, look at the world that you're born into. And then it's no wonder you've turned out the way that you have. Maybe it's your family. Maybe it's the, the, the culture you're in. You know, I see a lot of that with, I have a lot of Indians in the Transformational Coaching Program. And I mean from the country, India. And they've learned to live in a caste system, so to speak and subservient to their parents and giving up their life for what their parents want yet they've learned every bit of it and they're sacrificing and giving away their sole meaning and sole purpose. To live in that human created caste system. That's nothing more than human ego identification.

You know, there's somebody that I didn't know anything about. I know who he is because he has. And thank you very much this podcast is a top 100 podcasts. And two categories on iTunes. And personal development and in education. And candidly a little selfishly. If you hear episodes, do you think they would help people please share? It literally helps him. It helps you because you're actually creating, you're actually, creating reciprocity there. And what you put out is what you get back. So, it helps me. It helps them. It helps us all of us. We literally, the old phrase, high tides raise all ships. But this person that I'm referring to is extremely well known in the personal development space. I might even dare to say he's famous in the personal development space. And part of his messaging is that he said, and he says that he's lived with monks for three years. And then he, what was discovered recently? It's all a lie as I understand, I'm not saying it is, or isn't alive. I'm saying I should back up and say, as I understand, from what I've read from relatively credible sources, that is air quote, been outed and his entire platform is built on being a former monk, but he's not that. And he never was that.

My point a lot of people are rushing to beat him up judgment and all those kinds of things. Now does it make it harder for me and people that want to do things in the world? And I'm not saying this, I guess I shouldn't say that person doesn't want to do things in the world. But yes, it does because it makes the industry look like there's more charlatans in it. And it makes it harder to some degree for people like me. That really my whole life is I want to help. And for this person, it might be their life as well, but maybe they didn't go about it the right way. Deception is not the right way to help people. But here's where I am. A lot of people are beating this person up and he's getting a whole lot of negative press. Understandably. I'm not going to engage. I'm not going to send anything. I'm not going to post anything by name about this person. Because whatever they've done, where there is no matter how misguided it might be. What I want to look at is how much love and compassion can I hold? Because I don't think this person said intentionally. I don't think he had the conscious thought to say, oh, I want to lie to people. And I'm going to say I am X, Y, Z in a lie so that I can gain it. Maybe, maybe not. I don't know. I don't know this person personally.

But I mentioned that for a reason is I and my opinion believed that compassion is one of the most underutilized of resources that we have as spiritual beings exercising as human beings. And that compassion is the most powerful tool that you have to heal your life. This episode is not about this, but any of you, if you're beating yourself up, I'm so fat. I'm stupid. I can't do this. I can't do anything bright. I suck at ABC and blah-blah-blah. We do that many times because we want improvement and especially people that are in self-improvement.Research demonstrated the truth is the way to heal from the things that you want to move away from. The way to heal is to have compassion for yourself. Because when you hate on yourself, you actually reinforce the behavior that you're trying to leave. You know, a quick example here would be, and this was a yellow university study. About women that want to work out and become Trim fit and healthy, but they're overweight. Many women will start going to the gym. But then they quit very quickly because they are shaming, shaming themselves. Oh, my gosh, people are going to see me. They're going to look at me. I'm so fat and women say that they're, that brutal to themselves many times and even men. I'm so fat. I'm this I'm that? There's no compassion there. How do you expect to heal without the compassion?

So, we have to let go of these attachments to the human identity. He calls it the personality. Gary calls it the personality. We have to let go of the attachments, to what I call the identity, the human identity and what he calls the human personality. You have to let go of the attachments because something that I want you to consider is every attachment you have the basis of that attachment is one thing and one thing only. Fear. And fear is not soulful. So, think about the things that you're fearful about or fearful to do. Are you fearful when you read the news? It's just other humans creating the fear for you for profit. Are you fearful about what people are going to say about you? A big one that will resonate with 60 to 70% of people listening to this episode alone. What fear do you get into and bathe yourself with? Regarding money and the economy and the state of the world. That's not love. That's fear. And then we attached to the fear and then we live our entire lifetimes in that fear. You know, as the Buddhist said, that our attachments are our greatest source of suffering. So, what I want to ask you, this part of the conversation. Gary calls it the personality. What parts of the personality? When it comes to living in earth school, money, elections, fear, politics, war judgment, et cetera. What fears are you attaching to? Because these things they Rob you and they take your joy.
Okay. I want to segue from the episode for just one moment. And I want to ask you, where were you most stuck in 2023? What things held you back the most? When I ask people, you know, why they're not getting what they want in life, people often say, well, I was stuck with X, Y, Z, or, and this may resonate with you, I feel stuck. If you're feeling stuck, one question I want you to ask yourself. Is, what is it costing me? What is it costing me to not resolve this and to battle being stuck? And when you add that up, whether it's money and especially in business, but in your health and your relationships, when you add that up, it's extremely costly to be stuck in life.

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Next point. Gary said when an incarnation dies, it does. Okay. He says when an incarnation dies, it's not to be moaned.In the Western culture, when somebody, I don't even like using the word die because no one and nothing dies. It simply changes form. I know that at a soulful level, because I know that when I had a stroke, I was out and I was even told that I left the planet very briefly. I'm not afraid of it yet most people are afraid of it because they're tied to the illusion of permanence. The illusion of permanence is, Hey, this is me. This is what I am. This container of skin. You're not that that's simply your housing mechanism right now. But back to the quote. When an incarnation dies it's not to be moaned. And he said this in reference to a spiritual partner passing. And let me read you what he said. And I went through and listened and I'll just read you what he says here, and then I'll come back and we can re recapitulate it. When an incardination dies, it's not to be moaned. This is what happens when our beloveds go home. We know we are incarnation of a portion, of our soul. When someone dies, there is a void. And that void is not in the love. It's in the need. Now, this is powerful. Love does not hurt. Need does. So, think about people that are transitioned and past from your life. I think about the pain you attached to it. And think about the needs attached to that pain.

Recently the end of 2023, the day after Christmas, I texted Gary Because again, I know Linda his partner has transitioned and I texted him and I'm like, Hey, how you doing? What's up? You doing okay, et cetera. And in truth, I was a little concerned that maybe he might've been having a challenging time with the holidays. Lynda, no longer being on the planet. And he called me. Later that day and we were chatting about things. And he shared the similar sentiment that and he was fine. He was jovial and fine and, and all this, and he was in great spirits. Many people would be in poor spirits and bad spirits, and they'd be upset about it and crying. I've seen people be moan the transition of a partner, the death of a partner for a decade. Literally sacrificing her entire life for a decade. Over a soul that's already gone home. Gary said something that I know to be true as well.

He said that when his soul is ready to go, there's nothing you can do to stop it. Doesn't matter who your brain surgeon is, doesn't matter who your heart surgeon is. Doesn't matter who your Shaman is. When your soul's ready to go. It doesn't matter how much life insurance you have, or you don't have, or how safe your airplane is. Does not matter anything. When your soul's ready to go. Nothing can stop it. You know, I hear people saying things like, oh, they were so young to die. No, they weren't. They went exactly when they needed to go. That was their sole agreement to go when they needed to go. So, what we want to do. Is, we want to bless that. We want to honor and love and bless. Donya Maria Sabina. She was a healer to all the presidents of Mexico when she was living on the planet.

She literally was the one who took Walt Disney on. Mescalero journeys, actually not Mescalero Tone call, which is mushrooms. And it's even rumored that he got the idea from Mickey mouse when with Donya Maria Sabina. The Beatles went to see Donya Maria, Sabina and Mexico. And she lived literally literally and a dirt floor hut. Now she was a sorcerer and a shaman and she was one of the mentors to my brother-in-law Don Xavier. And she said to me one time. Well, she said. Let me put it this way. She didn't say it to me. She said it to a group of us. That we're sitting with her nonphysical is that many times when someone passes. Let's say that, just make this up. Let's say Bob leaves the planet. Many people are like, oh, poor, poor Bob. I'm so sad. Bob left the planet. And she said. That's not love. That's not love. That's pity. If you want to truly bless someone and release it. Send love and Gary saying the same thing, but in a different way. Is. It's beautiful. Don't Xavier was telling me recently and he said it before, but we were together last weekend and he said it for whatever we were talking about. And buddy's again, I said this before he goes, when I might've even mentioned this in the last episode.

When we look at someone and there's a difference between looking and seeing you look with your eyes, you see with your soul in your mind. He said, when you look at someone dying, it's the most painful thing you'll ever experience. But when you see someone die, it's the most beautiful thing you will ever experience. Yesterday on a coaching call in the Transformational Coaching Program. There was a student in there and she asked for coaching and we establish a list and we just start going through the list as I'm coaching people live. And she was the last person on the list. And she, I could tell she was upset and she said, well, I just got bad news. I have a family member; they had a stroke and they're close to dying. Now with a lot of love and kindness to her. I did not really say this yesterday. She was not in the place. I don't know if she listens or not listens to the podcast. Very gifted young lady, very gifted spiritually.

But the fear that she was in and the sorrow that she was in and the pain that she was in was not love. It was literally human, 3d identity and ego. So, think about people in your life when they transition. Are you meeting it with a love and gratitude or are you, are you leading with fear about them leaving the planet? You know, my mom Don Xavier used to also call her mom. When she left the planet in 2006, I think I'd mentioned this last week or so. I texted him and I said, Hey, and I was very torn up about it. At that point. I was very close to my mother. And my BA my adoptive mother and my biological mother had both left the planet already. They were friends growing up together. And I said, mom, mom died. And all he sent back was there is no death be strong. So, remember that, think about that. There is no death and when you experience it and you encounter it. How do you process it? How do you experience it? Do you experience it with pain and sadness or do you experience it with love? And even some joyfulness. I've said before, when I leave the planet. If anybody's crying, I'm going to come back and I'm going to haunt you. I want you guys to have an open bar. I want you guys to have a band. I want you guys to dance and do not put me in a box in the ground. I want you to take me metaphorically it's illegal in the United States. But like in Tibet they literally just the Tibetan monks tossed the body on the hillside and let the buzzards eat it.

Like Gary mentioned in this episode that you just listened to the last one with him. And you've heard it before. From ashes to ashes from dust to dust. So why wouldn't I want to return from ashes to ashes, to dust, to dust, take me on a hillside and just, Hey, toss me on the hillside and let the buzzards have at it. I'm returning to the cycle of life. Because I'm not in this container anymore anyway, and right now I'm only partly in the container, just like you weren't listening. You think you're the container. You are not the container. You were the housing mechanism. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Wait. I was going to say, you think you're the container listening to me now with your human identity, you are not that container. That's the identity that the container holds you are the soulful energy that is coming through that container. So, another thought many people are afraid of death. And what I want to tell you is it's coming for you, whether you like it or not.

As a matter of fact, each day that you wake up, you're closer to leaving the planet. I remember Don Juan one time, Don Xavier mentor saying to me, Death is like a, like you're driving on a lonely highway. And you're looking in your rear-view mirror, and you can see a car in the distance way behind you. Death is all the way as always following you. And it's also your greatest advisor. So, get out of the illusion of permanence. We think we're going to be here forever. We think we have forever to do things. Get out of the illusion of permanence. Except the power and the truth that you will transition and leave the planet. And then ask yourself. How do I want to invest my life? What do I want to do with the rest of my time in this incarnation and in this experience?

Gary said in the podcast and Don Xavier said this before, and let's make a very brief statement about it. Physicist know this. Time is a construct of the human mind and Gary said, time does not exist. You existed before time and you'll exist after time. Now I believe that's what he said verbatim. And I'm going to ask him about it because he and I are going to talk tomorrow just to get clarity on what he meant before and after time. Because of time doesn't exist. There is no before and after. So, I think he meant and the human experience. Which is what we qualify as time. But Don Xavier once said to me, there is, there is no time. What he said to me is time as we understand that as humans is simply an application. Meaning, it's a way for the burning, the process, the experience and make sense of it. But it's not reality. It's the way that we apply things to the reality. Time does not exist. Now, how can you actually make this pertain to you?

So, the truth be told we exist in no time. Which means that people will say things like I've said before, they'll say things like, oh, okay. Maybe I did that in the past life, or I knew you want to past life. There is no past life. There was only the life you're living right now and the container and the body you're living in. That life is energetic soulful continuity that has no beginning and has no wind. So, you already constant in the universes you'll always have been, and you always will be, and you will always continue. So right now, if you're thinking, oh, I was born in, like I could say I was born in 1965. And I left the planet in 2065. Now truth be told that none of us know when we're going to leave the planet.

I'm just using that as an example. I picked a hundred because I've got more things I want to do on the planet. But you know what? That's not time. That's just an application of a marker. That's all that it is. Time does not exist. But something I want to drive home in this episode. Is most of us live for later. And there is no later, there's only now. Because if you're working from later, what you would be saying is, okay, this time on my watch says right now, but right now it's not later and I can do it later on another time on my watch. It doesn't exist. These are all human applications. Somebody enrolled in TCP yesterday, the Transformational Coaching Program, she came from the podcast. And she said, and that's where many people come. People that enroll in TCP, they come from the podcast. Hint, hint, hint. And like I've said before, if you think I share all the coaching here in the podcast, you think I'm giving it to you all? I'm not. Why would I do that? I don't. As a matter of fact, the Transformational Coaching Program has literally 90% of things I don't even talk about on the podcast. Just food for thought. But she said someone enrolled. Okay. She enrolled just recently, yesterday in TCP and she shot a video. We asked people to do a welcome video. And she said she she'd been listening to the podcast since 2019. And she finally decided that now was a good time to enroll.

There's never a good time to do anything in your life. You have to do what you want to do. Because there is no time. And if you're working by time, you will always be working and time. And by time so what I'm asking you right now from Jim to you listening. What are you waiting for for crying out loud? You're waiting till the kids get out of college. You're waiting until you finish your degree. You're waiting for this. You're waiting for that. Your which stop it are ready. What are you waiting for? There is no perfect time. There was only now. And if you're working in your through time, you’re stuck and the human illusion of time. And that, as I said is an illusion.

Gary said also the universe is love. The universe is love and everything in it is love. The only thing that is real is love. Fear is an illusion. Competition, resentfulness, jealousy, compulsion, addiction, obsession, superior and entitled. What he was saying is these are all experiences of fear. When you were experiencing them, you are in the illusion of fear. Think about that. When you're experiencing fear. That doesn't exist in the universe. Think about that. You created it in your own brain in your own experience and your own mind. It's an illusion. Can't touch it. Can't smell it. Can't feel it. It's an illusion. And whatever fear you have because other people people don't have it. It proves that it's an illusion of your mind. It's a concoction of your mind.

One of my old mentors, Peggy used to call it a hallucination. And she would jokingly say, oh, okay. So that's your hallucination today? So. The fears that you get into are an illusion. And something that he asked here, very profound question. And I love the way that he asked it. What parts of the personality are attracted to earth school? And what parts are part of the soul. So, what parts of your personality are attracted to earth school and earth school basically people are getting into the competition and the resentfulness and the jealousy and the compulsion and the addiction and the obsession and the superior and the entitled.

Those are all elements of earth school, none of them belong to your soul. And if you sit here saying, oh, I'm a spiritualist, I'm a spiritualist. I'm a spiritualist Hari Krishna kumbaya. Blah-blah-blah. Peace and love, love, and light. But yet you're afraid of your own shadow. Unfortunately, that's mostly just talk of the ego and talk in the personality. And it's not reality for that person. So, ask yourself what parts of your personality are attracted to earth school. And to know what that is.Simply list out your biggest fears, and that will tell you the parts of your personality that are attracted to earth school. People hide from their fear. They run from their fear. And I did an episode on this maybe a year ago. And that we should embrace fear. Because fear is the 3d earth school showing us what we need to go through, because once we go through it, we become lighter. And we actually then released the soul to function and a more powerful way through the human identity and the ego. So, things that scare the shit out of you are things that you should not be running from, things that you should not be hiding from. Things that scare the shit out of you are things that you should be saying, Hey, come on. Bring it on, bring it on. That's where your growth comes in. You know, Don Xavier has said many years ago to me is there are only two emotions, love and fear. So, ask yourself another question. When you're choosing, making any choice about anything. And by the way, I've said before life is choice. Everything is choice. You're listening to this podcast is choice you turning it off is choice. You enrolling with me in coaching with me personally, his choice, you not enrolling and then dragging your heels and dragging your heels, but yet bitching about your life. Go look in the mirror. It is choice. Most people choose from fear and then they tie themselves to the fear. And for most people, that fear is tied to earth school. It's tied to a loss of money.

I want to share with you, nothing will improve in your life. Until you released the fear and transcend the fear. I'll say it again, nothing will improve in your life. Until you transcend the fear. And one of my students named Felicia, she's also one of my coaches now. Said fear as an invitation. And as powerful the way that she says that, because fear is inviting you to grow soulfully. One more here and then we'll start to wrap it up. Is Gary was saying your greatest connection happens when we are with someone not in the frightened part of their per personality. If you're an earth school, you have a personality. When you move in the direction of love you move away from the frightened personality. When we experienced the frightened part of someone's personality, anger and rage we can act. Not react from a loving part of the personality, and that is authentic power. To respond to people in a new way is a new use of authentic power. You developed two tools, emotional maturity and awareness. When someone activates the frightened part of their personality, someone is activated in you an internal dynamic. When we act with a love when someone has activated the fearful part of our personality that is authentic power. When we challenged that frightened part. Again, and again, that frightened part begins to disappear.

Okay. That's a mouthful and that is deeper than any country. Well, country well, as things they used to have on the farms hundreds of years ago. A takeaway for you right there. Is that any time you're responding to somebody with anger or rage or resentment? Or jealousy. Think about this you're responding from a fearful part of your personality. You know, a simple example when people would show me anger, I'm not an angry person per se. I don't, you know, somebody says, oh, they did this to me. I want to do it back. I'm not that person. But let's say for example, somebody, you know, kept me off in traffic or I cut them off by accident or whatever, and they shoot the finger and they get road rage. I'm definitely not a road rage person. But its kind of candidly, I kind of be like, fuck you. Whatever. Going about my day.

I don't do that anymore. And I haven't for some time. You know, living here in Sedona, I was thinking about this example and sharing it with you. We see a lot of tourists here, 5 million a year. And I have a, my car, my last car was really low to the ground. There was a Porsche. And this guy was in his big old pickup truck. Like, you know, this massive four-Wheeler pickup truck. And I made it I drove through the parking lot quicker than him. I did not take a space that he wanted or any of that. But I made a turn prior to him. And I don't even know what he got riled about, but he was yelling and screaming at me. I didn't cut him off. I didn't get in his way. I didn't take a parking spot away from him that he might've seen. I don't know. But the reality is. I didn't years gone by, I would've been like screw you and snarled a little bit. And that experience I recognized what Gary is saying to you and the podcast episode. Is, he's an anger. And if I respond back in anger, what fearful part of my personality am I responding back with. So, your takeaway is this. When people do things to you, even hurtful things. Think about how you're responding. Most people react by the way in TCP, we talk about the difference between responding and reacting and how to manage them. Never talked about that in the podcast case in point. I'm just kidding, but I'm not kidding.

But here's the thing. When someone does something to you, that's hurtful. Do you respond with love? Or you react with the same kind of hurt. And that goes back to the old phrase, is that hurt people, hurt people. And when they hurt people, those people tend to hurt the people back who hurt them. So that's a big one. So, think about that when somebody does something to me in a particular way. Do I respond with love or do I react with the emotion of anger they might've given me? And do I throw it back at them? Okay, that takes apart some salient points. In this episode I wanted to share with you. So, I would suggest I'd request go back through and listen to this episode and Gary's episode a few more times. I know that people tend to blow through the episodes thinking they get it. That's not, that's not true. We miss so much, and it's not because we're stupid or this or that our brain filters that out the brain can only handle so much. So, it's, it's a brain-based mechanism. And what I'm telling you right now. Is go back and listen. And listen, and listen a few times till you start to experience some changes in your life. Okay, that wraps up this episode. I'm looking forward to sharing the next one with you, which will be another episode of Gary. And I appreciate your listening. I'll catch you over on another episode. Stay well, stay healthy. Remember the world needs us and I'll catch you later. Bye-bye.